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1841 asylum census
« on: Friday 14 March 25 20:02 GMT (UK) »
I am looking at Richard Peter Manning died aged 82 in 1850 registered West Derby.
The story is that he had been in an Asylum for many years after killing a man in a duel in 1799.
I can't find him in 1841, would there have been records for asylum inmates then.
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Re: 1841 asylum census
« Reply #1 on: Friday 14 March 25 20:20 GMT (UK) »
There's a death announcement in the Manchester Courier, 19 January 1850 (attached)
Died at the private asylum of Dr. Litchfield, Walton Lodge, near Liverpool.

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Re: 1841 asylum census
« Reply #2 on: Friday 14 March 25 20:23 GMT (UK) »
Try
RP M born 1771 in Walton Lodge , West Derby
piece 519/book 14/folio 47/page 1

It says patient/surgeon but all other staff are named.

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Re: 1841 asylum census
« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 March 25 20:29 GMT (UK) »
Google search https://www.whitchurchherald.co.uk/news/19091359.blood-spilled-red-brook-hill---whitchurch-duel/

Blood spilled on Red Brook Field – the Whitchurch Duel

THE two men faced one another in Red Brook Field in Whitchurch.

Little was said and within moments one lay dead and the other would spend the rest of his life in an asylum.

This is the tragic tale of the Whitchurch Duel of October 22, 1799.

The two men had disputed ownership of property and arranged to meet in Whitchurch.

Captain Thomas Jones had travelled from Wrexham and Richard Manning, a surgeon, had travelled from Oswestry.

The trial heard witnesses of the event who spoke of what had happened in the build up to the duel.
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Re: 1841 asylum census
« Reply #4 on: Friday 14 March 25 20:49 GMT (UK) »
Thank you.
 This started when I came across Thomas Jones burial entry in 1799 Wrexham.  The entry states how and where he died. It was quite a surprise to see all that.
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Re: 1841 asylum census
« Reply #5 on: Friday 14 March 25 20:53 GMT (UK) »
Agreed there is a lot of detail, which I have to say made for a good read  :D :D
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Re: 1841 asylum census
« Reply #6 on: Friday 14 March 25 21:32 GMT (UK) »
Where Walton Lodge was is now in Stanley Park, the part off Walton Lane near the Isla Gladstone Conservatory, old map here:-

https://maps.nls.uk/view/102344096#zoom=5.7&lat=7089&lon=7384&layers=BT

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Re: 1841 asylum census
« Reply #7 on: Friday 14 March 25 21:38 GMT (UK) »
There's quite a bit on Thomas Jones on Ancestry as well.
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Re: 1841 asylum census
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 15 March 25 11:30 GMT (UK) »
I wonder whether the Whitchurch Herald item was derived from the comprehensive article, regarding the duel, which appeared in the Wrexham Advertiser issue of Saturday, 16th December 1882.

As found by searching for: "Richard-Pate-Manning" in Welsh Newspapers Online.

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