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Re: Birth record for Emily, Southampton, 1900
« Reply #9 on: Friday 14 March 25 19:08 GMT (UK) »
William Allen + Nellie Biles, March qtr 1895, Southampton.
The other Emily is not with them in 1901?

Other children with Nellie in 1901
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSFS-6GW

Youngest is Daisy, 1
Birth registered only two quarters before Emily.
ALLEN, DAISY       
Mother's Maiden Surname: BILES 
GRO Reference: 1900  J Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON  Volume 02C  Page 1

In 1911 William and Nellie actually have a 4 year old Emily!
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XWQJ-D14

ALLEN, EMILY       
Mother's Maiden Surname: BILLS 
GRO Reference: 1906  S Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON  Volume 02C  Page 17

What happened to Emily no. 1?
Or, seems very unlikely, but could there have been some mix up with the maiden names?

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Re: Birth record for Emily, Southampton, 1900
« Reply #10 on: Friday 14 March 25 19:11 GMT (UK) »
Where is Cecilia in 1901

With Henry and Emily in Southampton
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:XSFS-6B5

I think Emily is 6 months old (according to ancestry)

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Re: Birth record for Emily, Southampton, 1900
« Reply #11 on: Friday 14 March 25 19:13 GMT (UK) »
Is this her death you mentioned ???

Deaths Mar 1918
Allen    Emily    17    Southampton    2c    74

So DoB should be c 1900/1901
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Re: Birth record for Emily, Southampton, 1900
« Reply #12 on: Friday 14 March 25 19:16 GMT (UK) »
Where is Cecilia in 1901

Found them .  Emily is 6 months old on the 1901 census.  Living 6 Mount St, Southampton with both parents

Sorry John I see you found it
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Re: Birth record for Emily, Southampton, 1900
« Reply #13 on: Friday 14 March 25 19:19 GMT (UK) »
Where is Cecilia in 1901

Found them .  Emily is 6 months old on the 1901 census

Emily Allen
Registration Date   1900  - Quarter of the Year   Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Place   Southampton, Hampshire, England
Volume   2c Page   7

Sorry you discounted that one.  :-\

The age would fit nicely with that record (wonder, could the maiden name is wrong !!) -Biles
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Re: Birth record for Emily, Southampton, 1900
« Reply #14 on: Friday 14 March 25 19:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi all, thanks for the help and ideas so far.

There are multiple births to ALLEN in Soton with MMN of BILES throughout the period in which Wm ALLEN and Cecilia REED/REID were having children. Two separate families.

She was the eldest daughter.

1898 birth of Emily located by gc1 cannot be correct as that child died the same year.

1901: Emily age 6m was with her parents Cecilia and Henry Allen, scaler, All Saints, Soton. This is the correct family.

So if she was 6m on 1901 census which was 31 March 1901, she must have been born abt Oct 1900

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Re: Birth record for Emily, Southampton, 1900
« Reply #15 on: Friday 14 March 25 19:20 GMT (UK) »
Is this her death you mentioned ???

Deaths Mar 1918
Allen    Emily    17    Southampton    2c    74

So DoB should be c 1900/1901

Yes that's the death record. I have the physical cert. Influenza. States correct witnesses for it to be her mother with re-married surname.
But I'd like to locate her birth record. Unusual during this time not to have one at all.

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Re: Birth record for Emily, Southampton, 1900
« Reply #16 on: Friday 14 March 25 19:23 GMT (UK) »

Harry Allen has a mother MMN Biles ??

Henry Allen Birth Date   10 févr. 1882 (10 Feb 1882)
Birth Place   Southampton, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom
Marriage Date   1900 Gosport, Hampshire, England, United Kingdom
Death Date   15 avr. 1912 (15 Apr 1912)
Death Place   Naufrage du Titanic (41°43'43.94 N 49°56'48.49 W), France
Father    William Allen
Mother    Clara Biles
Spouse    Cecilia Reid

Child   
Alfred James Allen
Annie Cecilia Allen
Charles Edward Allen
Clara Elizabeth Allen
Eliza Allen
Emily Allen
William Henry Allen

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