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Birth record for Emily, Southampton, 1900
« on: Friday 14 March 25 17:50 GMT (UK) »
Hi, I have lots on this family, but am specifically looking for this one sibling's birth record.

Emily ALLEN. b. Southampton about 1900.

On the 1911 census, she is listed as being born in Soton, age 10, daughter. Oldest child. Her sister Ann is one year younger (I have got that birth record) Living with her mother Cecilia who is listed as head of house, but husband Henry ALLEN was away at sea (and died the next year; I have these records already and do not need anything else on the father's death or other siblings).

I have her death cert and it states that she died in 1918 of flu, mother Cecilia = correct person.

Other Anc users have Emily's birth as  Q4 1900 2c, p.7. This is not correct though; on GRO it states the MMN is BILES and there are lot of other births of ALLENs with BILES as MMN : separate family.

The correct family's siblings all have MMN as REED or REID.

I cannot locate the correct cert. I have tried:
REED and REID variations.
Widening birth locations (although 1911 census states birth location of All Saints ward, Soton)
Free BMD, Anc and GRO.
Using ALLAN instead of ALLEN
Have also tried using REED and REID as surname in case of birth before marriage.
Have also looked for girls born with second name beginning with E. There is only one and that name on GRO is shown to be Elizabeth.

Help would be great - I'm just looking for her birth record. Must be there! I'm currently wondering about whether she was adopted within the family.



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Re: Birth record for Emily, Southampton, 1900
« Reply #1 on: Friday 14 March 25 18:35 GMT (UK) »
Parents marriage
Marriage Jun qtr 1900
Allen    Henry       
Reed    Cecilia       
Southampton    2c   79

Her sisters birth
ALLEN, ANNIE  CECILIA     mmn REID 
GRO Reference: 1901  Sept Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON  Volume 02C  Page 40
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Re: Birth record for Emily, Southampton, 1900
« Reply #2 on: Friday 14 March 25 18:44 GMT (UK) »

Emily Allen
Registration Date   1900  - Quarter of the Year   Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Place   Southampton, Hampshire, England
Volume   2c Page   7

Sorry you discounted that one.  :-\
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Re: Birth record for Emily, Southampton, 1900
« Reply #3 on: Friday 14 March 25 18:49 GMT (UK) »
Parents marriage
Marriage Jun qtr 1900
Allen    Henry       
Reed    Cecilia       
Southampton    2c   79

Her sisters birth
ALLEN, ANNIE  CECILIA     mmn REID 
GRO Reference: 1901  Sept Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON  Volume 02C  Page 40

Yes this is all correct, I have this info on the family. Thank you  :)


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Re: Birth record for Emily, Southampton, 1900
« Reply #4 on: Friday 14 March 25 18:50 GMT (UK) »

Emily Allen
Registration Date   1900  - Quarter of the Year   Oct-Nov-Dec
Registration Place   Southampton, Hampshire, England
Volume   2c Page   7

Sorry you discounted that one.  :-\

Yep, MMN BILES

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Re: Birth record for Emily, Southampton, 1900
« Reply #5 on: Friday 14 March 25 19:02 GMT (UK) »
Could the  1911 census have her age wrong ???

Births Dec 1898 
Allen    Emily         Southampton    2c   11
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Re: Birth record for Emily, Southampton, 1900
« Reply #6 on: Friday 14 March 25 19:05 GMT (UK) »
Parents marriage
Marriage Jun qtr 1900
Allen    Henry       
Reed    Cecilia       
Southampton    2c   79

Her sisters birth
ALLEN, ANNIE  CECILIA     mmn REID 
GRO Reference: 1901  Sept Quarter in SOUTHAMPTON  Volume 02C  Page 40

Yes this is all correct, I have this info on the family. Thank you  :)

I posted that as we had no idea as to when the parents married or which part of 1901 her sister was born.  With the parents marrying in 1900 there is the possibility that she could have been born before the marriage.
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Re: Birth record for Emily, Southampton, 1900
« Reply #7 on: Friday 14 March 25 19:07 GMT (UK) »
Could the  1911 census have her age wrong ???

Births Dec 1898 
Allen    Emily         Southampton    2c   11

Unfortunately there is a death that might match

Emily Allen
Age   0 -Estimated Birth Year   abt 1898
Registration Quarter   Oct-Nov-Dec   Southampton, Hampshire.
Death Date   Dec 1898 Hampshire.
Volume   2c Page   10
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Re: Birth record for Emily, Southampton, 1900
« Reply #8 on: Friday 14 March 25 19:07 GMT (UK) »
Where is Cecilia in 1901
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