Parents not married?

[wdytya]

I am looking for the birth/baptism records for a Margaret Hopkins. The 1861 census has her living with her grandparents and born in Welsh St Donats Glamorgan. I have found her marriage record which shows her father as John Hopkins. 1881 census has her living with John Hopkins at Lower Cosmeston farm.  I cannot find any record of a marriage for John Hopkins or a mother for Margaret. When searching the "Free BMD" records there is no Margaret Hopkins for the approximate d.o.b.
1851 not shown on census record for the Hopkins family. 1861 aged 11, 1871 aged 22, 1881 aged 23?
If Margarets parents were not married would the birth registration for Margaret be recorded under her mothers name and not that of Hopkins her father?

[rosie99]

The 1861 census has her living with her grandparents and born in Welsh St Donats Glamorgan.

Could you please give the full details of this census

[rosie99]

1851 has a Margaret HOPKIN age 2 living in Welsh St Donatts with Charlotte and Ann David.  She is listed as Illegitimate daur of another person

ADDED in case they are relevant
Next door are a Thomas Hopkin 69, Mary Hopkin 65, Elvira Hopkin 29 plus 2 grandaughters

[heywood]

1861 4076 /32/5

The family are HOPKIN - grandparents are Thomas and Mary with other children so that looks good Rosie.

[wdytya]

Rosie.... Many thanks for your reply and the information you have found. I am unsure if the Thomas Hopkin family living next door is the correct family as the 1851 census record I have is them living at the Lodge, Welsh St Donats,

As Margaret is living with Charlotte and Ann David is one of them the mother? Is Margaret recorded with the surname Hopkins or no name or David.

[rosie99]

Margaret is Hopkin, Charlotte and Ann are David. The census state that she is the illegitimate daughter of another person.  There is another child on the page, not related to your query but they have a similar comment against them.  It is as though they are possibly being fostered.

I would not assume that her father is John Hopkin just because she names him when she marries.

[Mabel Bagshawe]

As Margaret is living with Charlotte and Ann David is one of them the mother? Is Margaret recorded with the surname Hopkins or no name or David.

No, as Rosie99 has stated above, she's listed as illegitimate daughter of another person

Not sure if there's a connection, but a John Hopkin, illegitimate son of John Hopkin, farmer, and Ann Morgan, is baptised in Welsh St Donats in 1853

[Mabel Bagshawe]

1851 - Warren Mill
Christopher Morgan 86 Head
Margret Morgan  60 wife
Richard Morgan  29 son
Ann Morgan    27    Daughter

The addresses in the baptism of John Hopkin in 1853 are Lodge and Warren Mill

Might be a leap, but Ann's mother's name is interesting?

[Mabel Bagshawe]

In addition, Margaret Morgan's maiden name is David