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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #36 on: Friday 14 March 25 14:46 GMT (UK) »
Would he be a weaver at 10?

Good point. But I think it is supposed to be “winder (ditto) pirns”, as written above.  He would have been that at age 10. What is written is “weaver ditto”, which doesn't make sense.
The whole census record / writing is just an incredible mess.
I think that what looks like 20 for George is actually 10 with a flourish to the top of the 1.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #37 on: Friday 14 March 25 22:44 GMT (UK) »
The 3 illegitimate children of Jane Peel and George Williamson born between 1856 and 1860 –
What street address is shown on their birth certificates?
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #38 on: Friday 14 March 25 23:56 GMT (UK) »
Prison record 1865 (Duke street prison)
William Williamson age 25 born Carlisle England
Weaver
Oswald Street Glasgow (SAME ADDRESS AS YOUR GEORGE) See clip below.
https://www.scottishindexes.com/prisontranscript.aspx?prisonid=321405727


Birth registration
WILLIAMSON, WILLIAM                                   Mother's maiden name - BURTON 
GRO Reference: 1839  D Quarter in CARLISLE  Volume 25  Page 58

William is the youngest son of Adam and Barbara Williamson as seen on the census records
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a14e9a6f4040b9d6ef0b7a2/adam-williamson-1841-lanarkshire-barony-1796-?locale=en


There are quite a few prison records for William at various addresses , 1862 - 1874  ...…     ::)
Also , the odd prison records for the other older brothers John and James.

Prison record 1868  (other records in 1866 and 1867 at same address)
William Williamson age 28 born Carlisle England
Weaver
Muslin Street Glasgow (SAME STREET AS HIS MOTHER BARBARA IN 1881 census)
https://www.scottishindexes.com/prisontranscript.aspx?prisonid=321709829
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #39 on: Saturday 15 March 25 01:32 GMT (UK) »
William was a busy fellow. I wonder what criminal activity he got up to?
Main street in 1862 record is the family address in 1851 census, and his mother’s address in 1861.
Orr street is where his brother John is living in 1871 census.
Brown street - John and George Williamson are there in 1865 valuations
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #40 on: Saturday 15 March 25 03:20 GMT (UK) »
The daughter Rachel Williamson born Carlisle, England in abt 1835 married James Preston in 1858.
1861 census has them living in Oswald Street.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #41 on: Saturday 15 March 25 03:44 GMT (UK) »
Possible death for the father Adam Williamson in 1859, Bridgeton, age 66.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #42 on: Saturday 15 March 25 09:25 GMT (UK) »
I think that what looks like 20 for George is actually 10 with a flourish to the top of the 1.
I also thought that might be the case.

There's a hint of just such a flourish in James' age above.
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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #43 on: Saturday 15 March 25 12:57 GMT (UK) »
The 3 illegitimate children of Jane Peel and George Williamson born between 1856 and 1860 –
What street address is shown on their birth certificates?

I don't have their birth cert, William was 1 1/2 yr when he died in 1861 at 41 Ozwald st 
I have John Peel Williamson BC 1856 illegitimate mother Jane Peel, can't make out the address,
Between prison and everything else I think they are just all broken people and not a true family :'(
Researchig - Clark from Polmont, Wason from Dailly,

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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #44 on: Saturday 15 March 25 16:04 GMT (UK) »
can't make out the address
If it's a poor quality image, report it to Scotland's People using the 'Report an Issue' button, and they will re-scan it for you.

Or you could post an extract here and see if someone can make it out.
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