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Brick wall
« on: Thursday 13 March 25 13:53 GMT (UK) »
I looking for any help finding a George Williamson born abt 1831 possibly Calton area

Think he marries Jane Peel although can’t find MC

1861 census -
George Williamson 31
Jane Williamson 30
George Williamson 3
William Williamson 9 Mo

Cotton weaver
Addeess - 24 Oswald Street, Calton,


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Name
George Williamson
Male
age 31
birth year 1831
Occupation Weaver
Residence Ozwald st, Glasgow
imprisonment date 1862
Birthplace - Glasgow, Lanarkshire
Prison Glasgow (Duke Street)

NRS Reference
HH21/32/18 p. 48


Jane Williamson/peel Widow Married Daniel Mclaren in 1870 so if I have the correct Jane then Geo must have died 1861-1870

Jane died 1904 both George and Daniel are on her dc.

I have searched all the Geo Williamson’s DC on SP and none of them look like it could be him!

Can anyone give me some advice where to go from here ?

Thank you
Sandra
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Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 March 25 14:28 GMT (UK) »
Have you looked at the death in 1863 in Shotts?
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 March 25 15:00 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
It could be him in the 1941 but I have no idea who his parent were, i really need to find a marriage or death with Janes name on it!

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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 13 March 25 15:59 GMT (UK) »
I would suggest that they never married, Jane when she Daniel used  surname Peel not Williamson.

Believe George & Jane had another son in 1856.

Name   John Williamson Peel
Gender   Male
Birth Date   29 Aug 1856
Birth Place   Bridgeton,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland
Mother   
Jane Peel


Birth image shows him as illegitimate.

I would also venture to say that George possibly did not die between 1861-70 and might be found at a later date.

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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 March 25 16:08 GMT (UK) »
Do you have the birth certificate for the boys George and William?
What information do they contain about parents?
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 March 25 16:29 GMT (UK) »
Son William is recorded as William Williamson PEEL born 14th July 1860, illegitimate son of Jane Peel.

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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 March 25 16:31 GMT (UK) »
Hmm.

1861 census says Jane Williamson was born in Glasgow. 1871, 1881 and 1891 say Jane McLaren was born in Kilmadock ???

1871 Census lists Daniel McLaren; wife Jane, 40; eight children who are presumably Daniel's by a previous marriage, one child of both, but no 13-year-old George and no 10-year-old William Williamson. William Williamson, mmn Peel, died in Bridgeton in 1861, but George W, mmn Peel, 59, died in Springburn in 1922.

She died in 1904, age according to deaths index 62, mmn Moore. That suggests a birth in 1841/1842, so it's probably wrong.

There are two more deaths of Peels, mmn Moore.
Margaret, aged 74, 1907, in Kelvin, other surname Williamson
Elizabeth, aged 73, 1916, in Garngadhill, other surname Telford

Margaret Peel married John Burton Williamson in Bridgeton in 1859, and they had at least 5 children: John 1862, Elizabeth 1864, Ann 1866, Alfred 1869-1869 and Margaret 1870-1872.

Elizabeth Peel married John Telford in 1879 in Dennistoun. They don't appear to have had any children.

It might be useful to look at Margaret's and Elizabeth's marriage and death certificates to see what their mother's name was.

1851 Census in Glasgow: Isaac Peel, 40, born Belfast; wife Constance, 38; daughters Jane, 18; Margaret, 16; Ann, 7; Elizabeth, 7. Could these be Jane and her family? What are the names of Jane's parents, according to her marriage and death certificates?

In 1861 in Glasgow are John Williamson, 38; wife Margaret, 28; daughter Jane, 7; and sisters-in-law Ann and Ely Pall, both 17.

Could John have been a brother of the elusive George? John was aged 47 in the 1871 census. In 1881 in Glasgow are Margaret Williamson, widow, 50, with son John, 19 and daughters Elizabeth and Anne, 19 and 15.

What about George W c1857-1922? In 1881 in Glasgow are George W, 24; wife Annie, 22, son Andrew, 3 and stepson David McLaren, 10. As Annie was clearly too young to be David's mother, this must surely be an error for stepbrother?

George W married Ann Major in Dennistoun in 1880. There's a birth of Andrew W in 1878, mmn not indexed, and births of George W in 1882 and James W in 1884, mmn Major. All three of these boys, plus an Annie Thompson Williamson with mmn Major, died young. Ann Major or Williamson, mmn Thomson, died in 1881 aged 29. George W married Elizabeth Anderson in 1890 and they had at least 5 of a family, including Daniel, born 1890.

Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Brick wall
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 March 25 16:35 GMT (UK) »
I would suggest that they never married, Jane when she Daniel used  surname Peel not Williamson.

Believe George & Jane had another son in 1856.

Name   John Williamson Peel
Gender   Male
Birth Date   29 Aug 1856
Birth Place   Bridgeton,Glasgow,Lanark,Scotland
Mother   
Jane Peel


Birth image shows him as illegitimate.

I would also venture to say that George possibly did not die between 1861-70 and might be found at a later date.

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Yes i am aware that could be the case I think Jane had a few illegitimate children.
Researchig - Clark from Polmont, Wason from Dailly,