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Offline Eidde

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Which given name?
« on: Thursday 13 March 25 02:13 GMT (UK) »
Hi all
I've been tracing a Clutterbuck family and I've got back as far as a Richard Clutterbuck who married Mary Woodward in Frampton on Severn in 1762. While looking around for Richard's parents, I came across a Richard Clutterbuck baptised in Eastington, Gloucestershire, in 1769. These locations are a few miles apart but this Richard could still be a possibility, I feel. His baptism date is given as 18th May, 1869. However, there's another record written in the same hand which shows a James Clutterbuck being baptised on that date. I think that James's record is a bishop's transcript - some earlier entries are labelled as copies, they're on long, separate pieces of paper year by year, and have been folded (presumably to be sent off). Richard's record is in a bound register.
The question is, which name to believe? Is 'James' likely to be a mistranscription or a correction?
Thanks
Eddie

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Re: Which given name?
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 13 March 25 04:06 GMT (UK) »
I think that the "James" record is the Bishop's Transcript. A few pages back you can see the note "this is a true copy witness our hand ..." (page 291 of 475 on Ancestry)

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Re: Which given name?
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 13 March 25 04:09 GMT (UK) »
Not sure if he is "yours" though - There is a Richard CLUTTERBUCK buried at Eastington 4 Nov 1832 aged 63.  :-\ Where did Richard and Mary baptise their children? Have you any other records placing him?

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Re: Which given name?
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 13 March 25 05:13 GMT (UK) »
I'm not too sure either. And I realise I've made a mistake in my original post - it was John Clutterbuck who married Mary Woodward in Frampton on Severn in 1762. These are the people I suspect may be the parents of 'my' Richard. Sorry about that.

The trail for the Richard I'm interested in starts in Stepney, London, in the 1851 and 1841 censuses. His place of birth is given as Gloucestershire - no town mentioned, annoyingly. From the 1851 census I calculated his dob as 1771. Also, I found a Richard Clutterbuck who died in the Stepney workhouse in March 1857 at age 89, so I figure that could well be him. I looked for a Richard C in Gloucestershire born around 1770 and found one baptised in Eastington in May 1769 (the one noted above) which fits quite neatly with the death in March 1857. However, I see that your Richard fits too.

John and Mary had five children, all baptised in Eastington at 2 year intervals.

I agree that James's record is from the bishop's transcript, but I'm more inclined to believe the parish register for the name of the boy baptised on the 18th May.


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Re: Which given name?
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 13 March 25 12:55 GMT (UK) »
No connection but just wondering if this is the family of the Clutterbucks who built Frampton Court.

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Re: Which given name?
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 13 March 25 13:17 GMT (UK) »
Not sure, but it's an interesting tip for me to follow up
Eddie

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Re: Which given name?
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 13 March 25 13:45 GMT (UK) »
FindMyPast has a transcript only record for John Church (17th), James Clutterback (18th) and William Davies (25th), all bap Eastington and Alkerton.
There is no record for a Richard, bap 18th.

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Re: Which given name?
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 13 March 25 14:35 GMT (UK) »
Was your guy a servant to Peter Everitt Mestaer?
Richard Clutterbuck, servant, of 28 New Broad Street was a witness to his will, dated 1809
Will of Peter Everitt Mestaer, Ship Builder of New Broad Street, City of London
Proved 20 February 1819
https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/D228640

Mestaer was at one time the owner of Oak Hall in Wanstead, Essex. Richard and Mary Clutterbuck had three children baptised in Wanstead, 1804-1810, starting with son John
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-66B9-PHF

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Re: Which given name?
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 13 March 25 15:28 GMT (UK) »
FindMyPast burial (transcript only)

Richard Clutterbuck, bur 4 Nov 1832, age 63 (calc YoB 1769), St Michael All Angels, Eastington (near Stonehouse)

Cannot spot a Richard Clutterbuck baptism that fits, but (again transcript only) did spot a-
Rich'd Buck, bap 15 Mar 1769, Stroud, mother Hannah Buck (no father's name). If you have access to original wondered if you could confirm transcript?