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Re: John McKenna emigration to Melbourne
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 25 March 25 03:19 GMT (UK) »
Hi Clemans
You need to post the sources and dates of your information. ;D
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Re: John McKenna emigration to Melbourne
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 25 March 25 04:49 GMT (UK) »
Sue,

John’s baptism:

The parish register at Kilronan, Co. Roscommon, Ireland records the baptism of John McKenna.

https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000632368?locale=en#page/1/mode/1up

Page 161 has the baptism of Johannes son of Jacobus McCanna and Maria Kelly on 30th April 1863, residence is Seltannaveeny, Co. Roscommon, Ireland.  Translated we have, John son of James McKenna and Mary Kelly.  McKennas are known to have resided in the very small townland of Seltannaveeny (my Grandfather visited them in 1917), the local village is Arigna, and the local parish was Kilronan.

John’s service with the Royal Irish Constabulary:

Record 50007 (I looked this up in the local library so don’t have a link). 
McKenna, Jno. 19 years old from Co. Roscommon, a laborer.  Start date 16th August 1882, finish date 31st October 1886 (4 years and 2 months service).  Resigned to emigrate.

John’s service with the Victorian Penal Service:

https://prov.vic.gov.au/archive/D8F4CED7-F3C5-11E9-AE98-FF93A9D0CEAE?image=159

Page 159, Folio 135.  Joined the service 15th October 1888, a prison warder and last appointment was Deputy Governor at Pentridge.  Birth date is not correct but the document records birth in Ireland, and 4 years and 2 months service with the Royal Irish Constabulary (same as his RIC record).   His role as Deputy Governor is known in the family.

Folio 129 of the same document records the penal service of different John McKenna, born in South Melbourne in 1865.

John’s marriage:

https://my.rio.bdm.vic.gov.au/efamily-history/67cd280979fdb513ef2eab0f/record/5c6552964aba80ac310ba721?q=efamily&givenName=Alice&familyName=DARCY

The Victorian registry of births, deaths and marriages records John’s marriage to Alice Darcy on 12th October 1892 at Oakleigh, Melbourne, Victoria.  The document (which I have purchased) records that John is a warder, aged 28 years and was born in Kilronan, Co. Roscommon, Ireland to parents James McKenna and Mary Kelly.

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Re: John McKenna emigration to Melbourne
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 25 March 25 05:58 GMT (UK) »
Hi
I agree that the file recording John McKENNA with previous Irish constabulary employment is likely the right man.

There is an address for a man of the name in 1895.
Vic Rates Book
https://www.ancestry.com.au/search/collections/60706/?srsltid=AfmBOopazgbkTE8n34Pzi0bYPBUrZBD0vCSRl3r3aCMsbKNu6ZUCTl8y

McKENNA, John. occ Overseer. Property owner is Wm HEALY
A wood House on land on the South side of Geake Street Coburg.

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Re: John McKenna emigration to Melbourne
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 25 March 25 08:25 GMT (UK) »
Sue,

The "other" John McKenna (John Francis McKenna) is recorded in his prison record as "Overseer of Tailors".

He also pops up in an article in the Argus newspaper dated 20th August 1920 a witness to an enquiry.

https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/4589092

I suspect the man at Geake Street is the "other" John McKenna.

He worked at Pentridge so Coburg is logical, Geake Street is not one remembered by my great aunt in her memoir.

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