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Is there a way to know what journey a ship made?
« on: Wednesday 12 March 25 19:38 GMT (UK) »
Hello there

My ancestor, Wilson Orwin, died at sea 4 Jul 1858.

Looking at his final seaman's ticket record - the one which records the death - I can see that he was master of the C Morrison (I presume the Catherine Morrison registered in South Shields, as Wilson lived in Sunderland) and that the ship left on 24 May 1858 and returned 27 Jan 1859. 

There are numbers above which are 14.793, but I don't know what they refer to.

I'm just interested to know where in the world Wilson may have been buried, and if I can learn the route they were trading on it will give me an idea

Many thanks!
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NB: Pickard, Gilchrist, Curry, Heron, Thompson, Bell, Henderson, Aynsley
CU: Bell, Armstrong, Parker
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Re: Is there a way to know what journey a ship made?
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 March 25 20:13 GMT (UK) »

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Re: Is there a way to know what journey a ship made?
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 March 25 20:18 GMT (UK) »
BT 124 entry for Wilson Orwin, Certificate 44820
Source: BT 124/7
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tp6/

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Re: Is there a way to know what journey a ship made?
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 March 25 20:26 GMT (UK) »
You could try following his vessel via the newspapers.
Still getting the name Orwin in potential hits at the end of 1858

Newcastle Courant, 24 December 1858
Marine Intelligence
North Shields
The Morrison, Orwin, and a large fleet of Tyne vessels, homeward bound, cleared at Constantinople on the 8th


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Re: Is there a way to know what journey a ship made?
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 March 25 20:28 GMT (UK) »
From Lloyd's Shipping register 1858, the Morrisons went to the Mediterranean. Newspaper reports may show where exactly it went. There are a few possibilities in the British Newspaper library but I don't have a subscription

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Re: Is there a way to know what journey a ship made?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 March 25 20:39 GMT (UK) »
Wow!
A crew list / agreement for "Morrisons" 14793. But not the fateful voyage.
Master Wilson Orwin, 46, born Sunderland
Date of Departure 15th May 57
Date of Arrival 31st May 58
Just a few images
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1H-1XGQ

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Re: Is there a way to know what journey a ship made?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 March 25 21:03 GMT (UK) »
A raft of them here (starting again from previous image)
Andrew Todd now the new Master of Morrisons in 1859
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS1H-1XGQ

Then we do have that fateful voyage
Morrisons, departed Shields 18 June 58
Name of Master Wilson Orwin, John Orwin.
So that explains the Dec 1858 Orwin reference in the Courant, John must have taken over from Wilson.
It says that Wilson died At Sea, Died of Cold
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSBJ-J36S-W

Then a form for births, deaths, marriages, but it's blank!
Next one
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSBJ-J36S-B

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Re: Is there a way to know what journey a ship made?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 March 25 21:24 GMT (UK) »
You could try following his vessel via the newspapers.

i.e. Lloyd's List, 25 June 1858, 19 August 1858