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William Thompson and Ellen Grace Bland 1900's Islington Area
« on: Wednesday 12 March 25 01:29 GMT (UK) »
Good Morning Everyone , i was wondering if you could help as i feel like ive exhausted ancestry and am now completely stuck  and struggling to answer some questions on the family! Any help would be massively appreciated

The Main questions are :
- confirmation of marriage certificate
-establishing when he moved to the UK from North Bay, Nipissing , Ontario, Canada
- Confirm if any other children apart from Glenn

William  Thompson (Grandad) was born on 09/04/1910 in Canada.He is recorded in the 1911 Census as residing in Nipissing , also within the 1921 census , at this point he is listed as a scholar, He married Ellen Grace Bland in January 1953 in Islington , so appears to have returned to the UK at some point between 1921 and 1953 but i cant find anything. He passed away in 1973/1974  in London.

He had two brothers in canada (scottish nationality) Gordon Lawson Thompson born in April 1908 in Ontario, he was married on 12/11/1930  to Dorothy Marie Galbraith, Dorothy was from York Country in Ontario, i dont have any further information on when gordon died and if he had any children. Harry Thompson born in April 1906 in Ontario , no further details could be found on him

Their father was James Thompsonm (Great Grandfather) birth: 02/12/1864, born in india but scottish, moved to canada in 1882 and married in 1903  Kathleen/Catherine and records show her last name recorded 3 ways  Franklin/Faughnan/Turney (Great Grandmother), she was born in pembroke, Ontario, (more details on her below).
He passed away on 03/04/1925 at 29 Main Street, West,  and died due to angina Pectoris , He is buried in North Bay St. Mary's Cemetery (Roman Catholic Church ). He was buried 06/04/1925 in Block C, Plot 79, Grave 2.


Kathleen (Great grandmother) was born in July 1881, date unknown, When looking at Kathleen her last name is unclear in terms of Maiden Name , there are two potentials :

Kathleen Franklin : this maiden name is on Gordons  Marriage certificate to Dorothy as the details of the bridegrooms mother, however it is noted that the witnesses appears to have the other questionable last name ‘ Mr James Turney and Miss Gar…. Turney’ (potentially an  uncle/aunt?)

Kathleen Faughnan- this name is used in the obituary for James and also states she resides in Pembroke, Ontario.


Harry Thompson (Great Great Grandad) was born in Scotland  (DOB unknown and no further details at this time, he would have gone to india at some point)

According to James Thompsons (Great Grandad)records his mother is called Mary (Great Great Grandmother) and she was born in Scotland, however according to his death certificate her surname was unknown, her father was  born in Ireland and her mother in scotland


Any help would be so appreciated !

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Re: William Thompson and Ellen Grace Bland 1900's Islington Area
« Reply #1 on: Wednesday 12 March 25 08:44 GMT (UK) »
Your opening quote
"Good Morning Everyone , i was wondering if you could help as i feel like i've exhausted ancestry and am now completely stuck  and struggling to answer some questions on the family! Any help would be massively appreciated"

It would appear you have access to Ancestry website. I would suggest you contact this person via Ancestry whom I believe to be a daughter of William/James & Ellen.

When they married in 1953 he was William J Thompson

Also it's rootschat policy not to name any possible living people. Please modify your post and remove the name of the son. There were 3 other children besides him.

Deaths Jun 1974   

THOMPSON    JAMES WILLIAM    9AP1906    LONDON CITY    14   892

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/family-tree/person/tree/83804129/person/48488045157/facts

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Re: William Thompson and Ellen Grace Bland 1900's Islington Area
« Reply #2 on: Wednesday 12 March 25 09:17 GMT (UK) »
Thankyou so muchm i had looked at this persons tree previouslybut youre right it may be worth popping them a message :) , all the individuals on the message have sadly passed away  i believe

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Re: William Thompson and Ellen Grace Bland 1900's Islington Area
« Reply #3 on: Wednesday 12 March 25 10:15 GMT (UK) »
This is a bit confusing

Ancestry has Ontario Births

James Henry THOMPSON born 6 April 1906. So that date nearly matches the 1974 death of William James/James William
Father James THOMPSON
Mother Katie FAUGHLAN  (transcribed as Taughlan)

Baptism of James Henry  born 6 April 1906, bap 19th April 1906
Parents James Thompson & Catherine Faughnan

1921 census has Harry age 15 so born 1906
Gordon age 13. (He was baptised as Joseph Gordon & born 10 Dec 1907. Not April 1908. Mother Catherine Faughnan, father James Lawson Thompson, marries as you say as Gordon Lawson Thompson)
William age 11. So born 1910

In 1926
James Harry Thompson age 20 crosses to USA. He is an electrician

Departure contact an   Aunt Mrs. William Morgion
Arrival contact another Aunt  Mrs M. Stover


So is the person who married Ellen Grace, William born 1910 or his brother James Henry born 6 April 1906?

(Added.i don’t think there is any doubt Catherine/Katie’s surname is FAUGHNAN)


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Re: William Thompson and Ellen Grace Bland 1900's Islington Area
« Reply #4 on: Wednesday 12 March 25 10:25 GMT (UK) »
What does the 1953 marriage certificate say?
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: William Thompson and Ellen Grace Bland 1900's Islington Area
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 March 25 10:35 GMT (UK) »
I dont have a copy of the marriage certificate just the marriage index  for marriages registered in jan/feb/march 1953 in Islington

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Re: William Thompson and Ellen Grace Bland 1900's Islington Area
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 March 25 10:41 GMT (UK) »
This is a bit confusing

Ancestry has Ontario Births

James Henry THOMPSON born 6 April 1906. So that date matches the 1974 death of William James/James William


death index has 9th April for birthdate
Berks / Oxon: Eltham, Annetts, Wiltshire (surname not county), Hawkins, Pembroke, Partridge
Dorset / Hants: Derham, Stride, Purkiss, Sibley
Yorkshire: Pottage, Carr, Blackburn, Depledge
Sussex: Goodyer, Christopher, Trevatt
Lanark: Scott (soldier went to Jersey CI)
Jersey: Fowler, Huelin, Scott

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Re: William Thompson and Ellen Grace Bland 1900's Islington Area
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 March 25 10:51 GMT (UK) »
This is a bit confusing

Ancestry has Ontario Births

James Henry THOMPSON born 6 April 1906. So that date matches the 1974 death of William James/James William


death index has 9th April for birthdate

Oops, I’ve modified post to say “nearly”. I shouldn’t be doing this after lights out!
Wish I could see his baptism/birth

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Re: William Thompson and Ellen Grace Bland 1900's Islington Area
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 March 25 11:13 GMT (UK) »
I dont have a copy of the marriage certificate just the marriage index  for marriages registered in jan/feb/march 1953 in Islington

I think that you really need that marriage certificate.  :-\.  I can't see any mention in newspapers or elsewhere to confirm the details of his father and possible witnesses
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