Birthplace 1861 Census George Thompson

[dippitybix]

Re Charlotte, late Parker formerly Snow
There is a birth registration in Westminster, Sep 1846
Parker, Thomas
mmn Snow

And a baptism of a Thomas Parker at St Margaret that year, parents Thomas and Charlotte (but I don't have the details)

Where are Thomas and Harriet Thompson in 1861 and 1871?
If Thomas was not the son of George Thompson the blacksmith (seems up in the air at the moment!),  then what happened to that chap?

The only census record I’ve found that contains Thomas and Harriet with their children Alice, Edward, Arthur and Herbert is here

https://www.rootschat.com/links/01tp1/

The next census has Harriet as a widow living with newphew William mother sole and children Herbert and Maud (Alice).

Check out this record I found on the Ancestry mobile app https://www.rootschat.com/links/01tp2/

[jonwarrn]

Hi
Thanks for the shares.
I think they may be in Islington workhouse in 1871
Thomas, 32,  a Groom?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRN2-BZ6

Harriet
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRN2-BNR

Alice
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRNL-SW5

Any more?

[Kiltaglassan]

Check out this record I found on the Ancestry mobile app https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/33590884?token=7b22746f6b656e223a2243694f4b333975516857466c693433466d6c63704c6c793878307059717042515870716b7a3445466c77593d222c22746f6b656e5f76657273696f6e223a225632227d&country=GB&locale=en-GB&app_store=apple-GBR&moo=c2%3A0%7Cc3%3A0%7Cc6%3A0%7Cc7%3A0%7Cc8%3A0%7Cc9%3A0%7Cc10%3A0%7Cc11%3A0%7Cc12%3A0%7Ci%3A576%7Cv%3A2%7Cc%3A992981%7Ct%3A9527507

The next census has Harriet as a widow living with newphew William mother sole and children Herbert and Maud (Alice).

Check out this record I found on the Ancestry mobile app https://www.ancestry.com/sharing/33590954?token=7b22746f6b656e223a224e374832546d4e41325a3566325a73652b2b6c6451574579457230535133714e466246316c48446b6346303d222c22746f6b656e5f76657273696f6e223a225632227d&country=GB&locale=en-GB&app_store=apple-GBR&moo=c2%3A0%7Cc3%3A0%7Cc6%3A0%7Cc7%3A0%7Cc8%3A0%7Cc9%3A0%7Cc10%3A0%7Cc11%3A0%7Cc12%3A0%7Ci%3A576%7Cv%3A2%7Cc%3A992981%7Ct%3A9527507

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[dippitybix]

Hi
Thanks for the shares.
I think they may be in Islington workhouse in 1871
Thomas, 32,  a Groom?
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRN2-BZ6

Harriet
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRN2-BNR

Alice
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:VRNL-SW5

Any more?

Thank you for these. Thomas is described as an Ostler on my GG Grandfathers birth certificate Edward Thomas Thompson - actually registered as Thomas Edward Thompson.

Thomas and Harriet had the following children (there may have been more but the below is what I've managed to find).

Maria Elizabeth 1862-1962
Alice Victoria 1863-1950
William George 1866-1868
Edward Thomas 1867-1940
George Robert 1870-1871
Charles Henry 1872-?
Arthur Joseph 1875-?
Herbert David 1879-1956
Victoria Maud 1883-?

I have found workhouse records on Ancestry for mother Harriet and children Arthur, Herbert and Victoria Maud. Edward and Arthur joined the Border Regiment, Arthur enlisted when he was only 14. Thats how my Great Grandfather Edward ended up in Carlisle as his wife Isabella Fulton was born in Cummersdale, a small village on the outskirts of Carlisle.

[dippitybix]

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Will do thank you for this.

[Tickettyboo]

Where are Thomas and Harriet Thompson in 1861 and 1871?

1861 census ?POSSIBLE? Cross St, Westminster St James, Middlesex
P65/F70/p45

Plus point - Thomas' occupation of Waiter and his age matches the occupation and age of 'minor' on the marriage
Unsure point - His wife is recorded as Mary rather than Harriet but is a ?possible? as her middle name was Mary and her age of 16 certainly means a match for her being a minor on the marriage record

Boo

[dippitybix]

Where are Thomas and Harriet Thompson in 1861 and 1871?

1861 census ?POSSIBLE? Cross St, Westminster St James, Middlesex
P65/F70/p45

Plus point - Thomas' occupation of Waiter and his age matches the occupation and age of 'minor' on the marriage
Unsure point - His wife is recorded as Mary rather than Harriet but is a ?possible? as her middle name was Mary and her age of 16 certainly means a match for her being a minor on the marriage record

Boo

Yes I though this was also possible.
I've also found a Harriet 'Leveridge' on the 1861 census as a servant however states unmarried and she was married by this point.

Name   Harriet Leveridge
Gender   Female
Age   16
Relation   Servant
Estimated Birth Year   1845
Where born   Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Civil parish   St Marylebone
County/Island   Middlesex
Country   England
Registration District   Marylebone
Sub-registration district   Christchurch
ED, institution, or vessel   15
Neighbors   View others on page
Household schedule number   61
Piece   83
Folio   92
Page number   12

[dippitybix]

I do have DNA connections to George Thompson on my Ancestry Thru Lines. I am new to DNA so I don't know how helpful this is or not.

[jonwarrn]

I've also found a Harriet 'Leveridge' on the 1861 census as a servant however states unmarried and she was married by this point.

Name   Harriet Leveridge
Gender   Female
Age   16
Relation   Servant
Estimated Birth Year   1845
Where born   Marylebone, Middlesex, England
Civil parish   St Marylebone

They were so young when they married, anything may be possible, even being enumerated in two different places!
Perhaps Thomas did tell a fib about his father being dead when he got married. George may not have known about it, Thomas fearing he might refuse to give permission.

birth registration in Westminster, Sep 1846
Parker, Thomas
mmn Snow

And a baptism of a Thomas Parker at St Margaret that year

The baptism was on 5 October 1846
Thomas, son of Thomas + Charlotte Parker
Abode 3 Old Pye St
Father a General Dealer

Sadly, young Thomas was buried at St Margaret, 5 Dec 1848
Abode 3 Old Pye St
Age 2

That address in Old Pye Street seems a big coincidence to me.