Birthplace 1861 Census George Thompson

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This gro birth registration throws up some info. We know Thomas Thompson was born 1842 with mmn Rider. By 1851 census he has 3 younger siblings, James, Edward and Eliza. At some point between 1842 1850 when George married Charlotte, Elizabeth nee' Rider has died. Address on birth cert as per 1851 census. NOTE mmn Snow

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[dippitybix]

This gro birth registration throws up some info. We know Thomas Thompson was born 1842 with mmn Rider. By 1851 census he has 3 younger siblings, James, Edward and Eliza. At some point between 1842 1850 when George married Charlotte, Elizabeth nee' Rider has died. Address on birth cert as per 1851 census. NOTE mmn Snow

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Interesting thank you, so Charlotte was also married previously.

[bearkat]

Old Pye Street was a very rough area

https://londonist.com/london/history/in-search-of-the-devil-s-acre

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I didn't say she was previously married  cannot find a marriage or the births yet for James c1845 and Edward c 1849.

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[dippitybix]

I didn't say she was previously married  cannot find a marriage or the births yet for James c1845 and Edward c 1849.

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I just noticed on the GRO birth that it says Charlotte Thompson late Parker formerly Snow and wondered what that meant.

[Tickettyboo]

I am puzzled. Going back to your assumed starting point of Thomas Thompson you say

My 3x Great Grandfather Thomas Thompson married Harriet Mary Loveridge 17 Feb 1861 St Pancras Parish Church - he gives his father's name as George Thompson and the occupation is recorded as 'Dead'.

I've just looked at the image and that is correct.

BUT as the 1861 census was dated 7 April 1861.
 I can't understand how anyone has found 'your' 4x G Grandfather George Thompson on that census as he had died sometime between 30 March 1851 (date of the 1851 census) and 17 Feb 1861?

Boo

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As Tickettyboo has pointed out I feel we could be looking at the incorrect George Thompson. IF
dippitybix family line is Thomas Thomas & Harriet Mary Loveridge who married 17th February 1861 then the Thomas's father George we have been following was/is very much alive on the 17th April 1861.

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[Gan Yam]

cannot find a marriage or the births yet for James c1845 and Edward c 1849.
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Possible birth for Edward born in Westminster, Edward Tompson 2nd quarter 1849, mmn Rider.  There is a possible death for an Elizabeth Thompson in Westminster in Sept quarter of 1849, age is 39 so doesn't quite match.

There is also a possible death for Edward (aged 3), 2nd quarter 1852 in Westminster .

Cant find James.

he gives his father's name as George Thompson and the occupation is recorded as 'Dead'. As he was underage, maybe he thought his father wouldn't give permission.

[jonwarrn]

Re Charlotte, late Parker formerly Snow
There is a birth registration in Westminster, Sep 1846
Parker, Thomas
mmn Snow

And a baptism of a Thomas Parker at St Margaret that year, parents Thomas and Charlotte (but I don't have the details)

Where are Thomas and Harriet Thompson in 1861 and 1871?
If Thomas was not the son of George Thompson the blacksmith (seems up in the air at the moment!),  then what happened to that chap?