Birthplace 1861 Census George Thompson

[dippitybix]

Have you found him in 1851 please?

I am struggling to locate him on that census - using his approx birth year, and a location of Middlesex.

I don't know if this is him or not but this is what another tree on ancestry has attached to him.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/8860/records/44510?tid=192722009&pid=232511062266&ssrc=pt

[gc1]

Have you found him in 1851 please?

I am struggling to locate him on that census - using his approx birth year, and a location of Middlesex.

I don't know if this is him or not but this is what another tree on ancestry has attached to him.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/8860/records/44510?
tid=192722009&pid=232511062266&ssrc=pt

They both have him down as a "Blacksmith" or "Smithy" so possible him.
1851 Census; Where born    Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England
1861 Census; Where born    London, Stone, Lancashire, England

[Tickettyboo]

Marriage of George Thompson (a black smith) and Elizabeth Rider 1828

In the parish Church of Manchester, County of Lancaster
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/2576/records/44627443

Boo

[dippitybix]

Have you found him in 1851 please?

I am struggling to locate him on that census - using his approx birth year, and a location of Middlesex.

I don't know if this is him or not but this is what another tree on ancestry has attached to him.

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/8860/records/44510?
tid=192722009&pid=232511062266&ssrc=pt

They both have him down as a "Blacksmith" or "Smithy" so possible him.
1851 Census; Where born    Gainsborough, Lincolnshire, England

Also listed as a Blacksmith on the birth registration image I posted on the previous age too. It's the place of birth that is causing the confusion. I suppose being a Blacksmith he would have travelled around?

[dippitybix]

There is a baptism record for an Eliza Ann Thompson showing parents George and Charlotte occupation Smith baptised 6th October 1850
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/62467/records/427247

Birth record on GRO 1843 S Quarter Westminster mother's maiden name Rider.

Could a child be baptised under step mothers name after death of actual mother?

[Pennines]

just going back to the Lincolnshire birthplace - interestingly there is a Londonthorpe in that County!

[Gan Yam]

The 1861 Census attached to the trees has him married to "Elizabeth" but it should be Charlotte?

On the 1851 census George the son of Elizabeth and George is living with an aunt and uncle Edward and Elizabeth Harris and they have place of birth as Lincolnshire, Edward as "Culverthorpe" and Elizabeth as Gainsborough

There is a baptism record for an Eliza Ann Thompson showing parents George and Charlotte occupation Smith baptised 6th October 1850
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/62467/records/427247

Birth record on GRO 1843 S Quarter Westminster mother's maiden name Rider.

Could a child be baptised under step mothers name after death of actual mother?

Looks like both wives had a daughter called Eliza, the earlier one dying as a baby.

[dippitybix]

The 1861 Census attached to the trees has him married to "Elizabeth" but it should be Charlotte?

On the 1851 census George the son of Elizabeth and George is living with an aunt and uncle Edward and Elizabeth Harris and they have place of birth as Lincolnshire, Edward as "Culverthorpe" and Elizabeth as Gainsborough

Yes the Elizabeth instead of Charlotte is what made me question the accuracy of the tree but perhaps it is right.

[Viktoria]

Marriage of George Thompson (a black smith) and Elizabeth Rider 1828

In the parish Church of Manchester, County of Lancaster
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/2576/records/44627443

Boo

The Parish Church of Manchester is actually The Cathedral,near Victoria Station - area Blackfriars .Dedication to St. Mary and St. Denis.
Very close to the very dreadful area described as The Worst slum in Europe, by Engels, not made so by the residents but built so by greedy mill owners to house the workers in their mills, such as Arkwright.
Viktoria.