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Re: FRANCES (FANNY) DOLAN (born 1885 Roscommon)
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 19 April 25 05:51 BST (UK) »
Thank you shanreagh
The child that died was NOT Frances.
Frances (Fanny) Dolan left home (probably shamed and/or with child) and never returned. It is thought she went to Northern Ireland, possibly Belfast.

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Re: FRANCES (FANNY) DOLAN (born 1885 Roscommon)
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 19 April 25 05:54 BST (UK) »
Thank you shanreagh
The child that died was NOT Frances.
Frances (Fanny) Dolan left home (probably shamed and/or with child) and never returned. It is thought she went to Northern Ireland, possibly Belfast.

Please advise who the child was. have you a link to the death please? . 

Stories passed down can be powerful and also can be incorrect.

In my famaily for instance there were passed down stories about the uncles of my Irish grandmother
'who went to to the US and were never heard of again' 
This was accepted as gospel unitl my mother and i were looking at an album passed down to my g'ma from her mother ie the sister of the missing uncles and there were many pictures of these two uncles in the US and later I found that one had actually returned to Ireland.  My grandma lost her mother at age 10 and I can imagine a harried father with 5 motherless children under 10, saying in answer as to why these uncles are not in contact or here now, that 'they went to the US and were never heard of again'

The point being that stories may be just that, sometimes true and sometimes not. Sometimes true in part and not true in others.

If you are keen for help it is a given that we must  suspend  our belief in what we have been told, no matter how well meaning or how long hel in our family, until we have all had a go at exploring all angles and going down any by-ways.   ;D

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Re: FRANCES (FANNY) DOLAN (born 1885 Roscommon)
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 19 April 25 05:58 BST (UK) »
I do not know the name of the child that died. Most likely at birth and was not christened.

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Re: FRANCES (FANNY) DOLAN (born 1885 Roscommon)
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 19 April 25 06:11 BST (UK) »
I do not know the name of the child that died. Most likely at birth and was not christened.

That is not especially helpful. 

Is it family lore that an unregistered child was born and died shortly after birth?  Have you never searched?


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Re: FRANCES (FANNY) DOLAN (born 1885 Roscommon)
« Reply #13 on: Saturday 19 April 25 06:28 BST (UK) »
shanreagh
My quest for information was for Frances (Fanny) Dolan, living, and listed in the 1901 Census of Ireland, aged 16, and not listed thereafter.
I have never searched for the child that died. If you wish to do so, then all of the information about the parents is listed in the Census returns.

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Re: FRANCES (FANNY) DOLAN (born 1885 Roscommon)
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 19 April 25 08:20 BST (UK) »
We all understand that your search is for Fanny(frances) .

Usually a necesary part of finding one person is doing what I call 'going round the traps' to look at family, parents, location etc. 

Amassing info on parents and siblings can sometimes lead to finding a 'missing ' person. ie we find a sister staying with another sister but this other sister has a different name or mispelt name. etc etc. Then there is the complication brought about by names eg frances, Fanny could be Fran, Franny etc

That is why I was hoping you may have done research on the other sisters..... in case Frances/Fanny was with either of them. 

Have you searched for an infant Dolan, ie her child?