help needed on a Thomas Doyle c1847

[ernlun]

Hello I am trying to confirm the death date of a Thomas Doyle Baptised on the 19th September 1847 at Tinryland, Garryhundon Townland, Co. Carlow. he married a Honor Foley 6th November 1870 at kiltilly, Kilrush, Co. Wexford. they had 4 children all born Newtownbarry (Bunclody) Co. Wexford. On the birth certificate's it gives his occupation as a labour and on his wife's death certificate 1912 it gives his occupation as a gardener,but on this one it states a farmer. i have found a few news paper articles on this death of Thomas Doyle but still nothing to confirm its the Thomas Doyle i am looking for. I would apricate any help in ruling this out or in. Thomas Doyle death 10th March 1910 New Ross Co Carlow.

thank you
     Ern

[aghadowey]

Is this the Thomas Doyle who died in 1910? wife's name is Anne-
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Carlow/Tinnahinch/Coolyhum/1045223/

[ernlun]

Thank you Aghadowey for your reply its not him this Thomas Doyle is still living in the 1911 census. that rules him out.
On the death certificate it gives his age the only one i could find with the correct age in that area of Newtownbarry died 1910. I know at times ages on death certificates can sometimes be wrong that's why i am trying to confirm if it is the Thomas  Doyle in the 1910 death cert. being the one that  i am looking for, what information I have at present is he was still living in 1877 and was dead by 1912. Born 1847. a daughter still living in the newtownbarry area this is were Honor Doyle his wife died in 1912 stating she was a widower correct age on death cert. is it possible his occupation listed as a labour on marriage 1870 and on the birth of his children the same on his wife's death cert. it states gardener could he have been a farmer as well at some point if an elder sibling had died from a farm.

[ernlun]

the news paper said he had left his home at Baltinagrane near Borris and was in Graig for business on the 10th March 1910 and was four miles from home when the accident happened.

[Wexflyer]

Thank you Aghadowey for your reply its not him this Thomas Doyle is still living in the 1911 census. that rules him out.
On the death certificate it gives his age the only one i could find with the correct age in that area of Newtownbarry died 1910.

How can he be still living in 1911 if he died in 1910???

[heywood]

This looks like the one who died

1901 Ballinagrane
Thomas and Hannah Doyle
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Carlow/Borris/Ballinagrane/1039429/

1911 Ballinagrane
Hannah Doyle, widow
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Carlow/Borris/Ballinagrane/309692/

Do you have his children’s names and births?

[Ladyhawk]

Hello I am trying to confirm the death date of a Thomas Doyle Baptised on the 19th September 1847 at Tinryland, Garryhundon Townland, Co. Carlow. he married a Honor Foley 6th November 1870 at kiltilly, Kilrush, Co. Wexford.

they had 4 children all born Newtownbarry (Bunclody) Co. Wexford. On the birth certificate's it gives his occupation as a labour and

on his wife's death certificate 1912 it gives his occupation as a gardener

Can I check this the correct Honor on 1911c

1911 widow Honor Doyle with her married daughter Elizabeth Redmond
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Wexford/Newtownbarry/Newtownbarry_Town/681653/

1912 death Honora Doyle widow of a gardener
present at death daughter Elizabeth Redmond
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1912/05356/4492852.pdf

Do you have Honor on the 1901c?

There is this Honor living in Newtonbarry a widow but her age is 50
1901 census widow Honor Doyle
https://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Wexford/Newtownbarry/Irish_Street/1790785/

For info. have added marriage

1870 Marriage of Thomas Doyle, widower occ labourer
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1870/11405/8188058.pdf

Are these some of their children?

There are these Doyle births  Father Thomas Doyle mother Honor/ Honoria Foley

1871  Peter Doyle
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1871/03282/2202838.pdf

1873 Eliza Doyle
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1873/03206/2175872.pdf

1875 Thomas Doyle ~ edited to add
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1875/03110/2140838.pdf

1877 Bridget Doyle
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1877/02995/2097726.pdf



 

[ernlun]

Can I thank everyone for there help, I had spend days and days trying to confirm this death certificate to the Thomas Doyle I was looking for, I had tried it from different angles eliminating other Thomas Doyle's in the area etc. I think heywood has found the link I needed in the 1901 census his mother was Catherine Byrne and looks like she was still living with them in 1901 age 80 which would have been her age, had  went though the census several times and never found it. 

Once again I thank every one  for their time spent trying to trace this I had almost given up, its nice to be able to add the news paper articles of the accident and funeral to the family history.

Thank you Ern   

[aghadowey]

its nice to be able to add the news paper articles of the accident and funeral to the family history.

Can't quite follow this but maybe I've missed something. IF the 1901 census Ladyhawk found is correct (shows Honora as a widow) is correct then the Thomas Doyle who died in 1910 (newspaper articles) can't be her husband.