Author Topic: Brinlack: 1860s, 70s, children of Marie McHUGH, McFADDEN, FERRY?  (Read 4095 times)

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Re: Brinlack: 1860s, 70s, children of Marie McHUGH, McFADDEN, FERRY?
« Reply #99 on: Tuesday 25 March 25 11:51 GMT (UK) »
Maybe it's not too late for me to cancel it if that is the case.

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Re: Brinlack: 1860s, 70s, children of Marie McHUGH, McFADDEN, FERRY?
« Reply #100 on: Tuesday 25 March 25 11:57 GMT (UK) »
No paywall.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/

Just complete as much as you can on the page, when you have chosen civil record/name/event, another section is below when you confirm your name and tick a box.

Although Heywood's is the generally accepted way of searching I have found that using less information rather than trying to fill out every box can give better leads.

For instance

1   putting a wide set of birth years  search dates will catch births that are registered late or later. So births around Christmas when weather is bad in the northern hemisphere may be registered    next market day in January.  So putting  a 'tight' search year might mean not being able to find a birth

2 I usually don't use a location in searching, I might limit it to a county but there are counties where markets are across the border and  towns  where registrations took place may be different to where we think the birth took place.

3 Similarly with names.  Coming from a family where children were registered with one name and called by another and even a case where no first name was registered I usually might start with just the surname

4 For surnames especially, spelling was not as consistent as nowdays. So I usually keep a list of variations and search for all of those eg we might have a name Collins and think we just need to search for Collins.  But the name may have been recorded as Collyns,Colin, Colling, Collynge etc etc

5 Deaths may be registered from an unexpected town if the person had been in a hospital or infirmary before death.

So I favour a looser style of searching.  This can flash up larger numbers but if you know your search parameters you will be able to eliminate 'also rans' easily.

I had a stunning example of this loose style working in my own family even if it was inadvertent. I was helping with a family book &  I was in charge of verifying the births of the children. Nine of them. One time I could not remember if it was 1900 or 1901 that the oldest child had been born or if 1900 was the marriage. So to be on the safe side I put 1899 and there was a birth registration of a child we knew nothing about. She had been born first but had died shortly after the birth of the child we had always believed was the oldest.

So my experience has always been that the tighter the search parmeters the less likely you are to find ancestors.

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Re: Brinlack: 1860s, 70s, children of Marie McHUGH, McFADDEN, FERRY?
« Reply #101 on: Tuesday 25 March 25 12:01 GMT (UK) »
Sorry it does give a reason for death and informant rather than names of the parents.

Even though it may not give the parents some deaths certificates may say eg Andrew  Sims  aged 2 then under occupation 'son of a carter' etc etc.  if you know that the Andrew Sims you are looking for was the son of a solicitor you may get a clue that way. 

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Re: Brinlack: 1860s, 70s, children of Marie McHUGH, McFADDEN, FERRY?
« Reply #102 on: Tuesday 25 March 25 12:06 GMT (UK) »
That's very interesting and very helpful thank you shanreagh, on both counts.

I have been using looser search info as you describe, but I still don't seem to be able to find some records that others have. However, it's very good to have confirmed that Irish Genealogy is the best site/source to use, I will just have to persevere :)

And useful to know there aren't separate individual death certs - I have tried to cancel the order so fingers crossed that works.


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Re: Brinlack: 1860s, 70s, children of Marie McHUGH, McFADDEN, FERRY?
« Reply #103 on: Tuesday 25 March 25 17:55 GMT (UK) »
Bridget’s death in 1906
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1906/05562/4561323.pdf

I don't know where I thought that Daniel was the witness, I must have mixed it up with another record.

I was looking at this again - and very sadly, it's her husband Andrew who is the informant, Bridget died on 19 March 1906 of a uterine infection following childbirth, a few weeks after son John was born (27 Feb 1906). And hence Andrew recorded as a widower on the 1911 census.

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Re: Brinlack: 1860s, 70s, children of Marie McHUGH, McFADDEN, FERRY?
« Reply #104 on: Tuesday 25 March 25 18:15 GMT (UK) »
This looks like Dan McHugh’s grave. If you recall Grace Gallagher was the informant.
There are Gallaghers also in this grave.
https://irishgraveyards.ie/plot?plotno=39&yardid=19&section=A
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Re: Brinlack: 1860s, 70s, children of Marie McHUGH, McFADDEN, FERRY?
« Reply #105 on: Tuesday 25 March 25 18:51 GMT (UK) »
Ah yes, brilliant detective work, thank you so much. So Grace Gallagher and Grace Sweeney are likely the same. I wonder what their connection to Dan is.

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Re: Brinlack: 1860s, 70s, children of Marie McHUGH, McFADDEN, FERRY?
« Reply #106 on: Tuesday 25 March 25 18:54 GMT (UK) »
Grace Gallagher was listed as the occupier if I'm reading it correctly:

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1952/04483/4176319.pdf

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Re: Brinlack: 1860s, 70s, children of Marie McHUGH, McFADDEN, FERRY?
« Reply #107 on: Tuesday 25 March 25 19:04 GMT (UK) »
Maybe this is John McGeady's marriage in 1927 (to Catherine McGee):

https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1927/09094/5289549.pdf