Brinlack: 1860s, 70s, children of Marie McHUGH, McFADDEN, FERRY?

[colee]

Yes you're absolutely right, it does seem incontrovertible when you lay it all out so clearly, thank you so much, I'm very grateful for yours and everyone's help! As you say, the dates won't necessarily match up exactly, and I was clouded by the fact that in the handed down info, Racecourse wasn't mentioned. But there you have it all, it must be right, thank you so much again.

[heywood]

Robert Quigley’s birth shows he lived ‘Race Course’
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1869/03409/2250265.pdf

On their marriage, Catherine Ferry was a housekeeper - residence Londonderry (as Robert)
She was presumably employed in Londonderry.

I would like to add that much of the information aghadowey has posted has been mentioned in various forms throughout the thread or in questions asked of you.
😉

[aghadowey]

Yes, heywood, I took what was already posted then went through sources for everything to verify the details before checking newpapers and a few other records.

Family stories are wonderful- when they are correct or bear some semblance to reality. To give an example of what can happen-

In the early 1970s my sister asked Dad for the names of his 4 grandparents (school project). Youngest brother named for both grandfathers so that bit was easy. He then said grandmothers were Margaret (paternal) and Sarah (maternal). When I asked how be came up with their names he said each one had a daughter named after her. Well... paternal grandmother was Mary (eldest daughter called Margaret but 2nd one given middle name May for mother) and maternal grandmother was Annie (eldest daughter called Sarah but 2nd one named for her). In all fairness, his father's family weren't spoken about, he'd only ever met a few relatives and that grandmother had died when his father was a baby.

[aghadowey]

One other place to check would be the Valuation Revision Books (which run from printed version of Griffith's Valuation (mid-1850s) until almost 1930)-
https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/information-and-services/search-archives-online/valuation-revision-books (search for Shantallow townland)

I did notice that in 1898/1910 property 19. changed from an Edward Fury to Eliza Fury (c1907) and she might be the Lizzie Ferris who appears at various properties in Shantallow in the 1923-1929 book.

[colee]

Robert Quigley’s birth shows he lived ‘Race Course’
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1869/03409/2250265.pdf

On their marriage, Catherine Ferry was a housekeeper - residence Londonderry (as Robert)
She was presumably employed in Londonderry.

I would like to add that much of the information aghadowey has posted has been mentioned in various forms throughout the thread or in questions asked of you.
😉

Brilliant, thank you Heywood, very useful to see that record, confirming that Robert's family was in Derry in the 1860s, while Kate's family stayed in Brinlack where she was born.

Apologies for any duplications in the thread, I hugely appreciate all the help from everyone, I would have got nowhere without it

[heywood]

Great that you are sorted hopefully.

[colee]

Thank you Heywood, yes all looking good for the Quigleys in Derry.

I'm now looking back again to around Brinlack/Gweedore for Catherine/Kitty's parents and siblings. The records for her in Derry are slightly contradictory:

Catherine's marriage record to Robert in 1889 gives her father as James Ferry;
her burial in 1958 gives her parents as Neil and Catherine Ferry;
but I have a record of her birth with parents Michael and Maria McFadden.

This isn't new info, it's already been mentioned in the thread earlier. But I'm going to see what death/burial records I can find in Brinlack, I've only found birth records from there so far.

[heywood]

The record you have is a baptism not a birth record.
There does not seem to be an equivalent birth.

I will post the civil birth again and hope that someone could pass comment. It gives birth as 11th Feb 1868 and registered 2nd March 1868.
However, the declaration at the foot of the page is dated 15th April 1869
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/supp_births/2343692x.pdf

The baptism record - parish Tullaghobegley West shows a birth of 12th March 1869 and a baptism date 14th March.1869
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000631955?locale=en#page/14/mode/1up

[Sinann]

The declaration is always after the last birth on the page, in this case Kate is the only one on the page, the declaration isn’t about her it’s confirming the entries on the page have been checked and are correct.
See the declaration on this one is from Daniel Ferry, top of page to Mary Sweeney, bottom of the page, and is several months after Mary was registered.
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1903/01869/1727594.pdf