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Offline Neale1961

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Re: MacGillivray Family
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 06 March 25 07:15 GMT (UK) »
His parents were Archibald McGilvray and Ann McKinnon.

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1/ Ann McKinnon is actually Agnes
2/ surnamed spelling variation McGILVRA
3/ Malcolm baptised in 1799
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Re: MacGillivray Family
« Reply #10 on: Thursday 06 March 25 22:06 GMT (UK) »
Hi Neale1961, it does look like Ann, if Malcolm died 1866 , age 61 would put his birth around 1805. Definitely interesting information, I have found another Archibald McGilvray in Lanarkshire, maybe the same family

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Re: MacGillivray Family
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 06 March 25 22:11 GMT (UK) »
The names Ann and Agnes are sometimes used interchangeably.

Malcolm's age at death is quite a bit adrift from his birth date of 1799. It's just possible that the 1799 Malcolm died young and another later child was given the same name but he baptism record has not survived.
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Re: MacGillivray Family
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 06 March 25 22:29 GMT (UK) »
Variations of the name Agnes – Ann, Nan, Nancy.
Accuracy of information on a death certificate is subject to the knowledge / memory of the informant.
I don’t think 5 years difference between actual birth date and age reported at death is anything unusual, but it could be the same name was used again for a later birth.

Possible for Archibald McGilvray in 1841 census, Glasgow
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a14edb3f4040b9d6ef528a8/archd-mcgilvray-1841-lanarkshire-glasgow-1766-?locale=en
A "cloth lapper" was a textile industry worker who transferred yarn between machines.


Added - I never managed to find your Malcolm in the 1841 census - did you?
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)


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Re: MacGillivray Family
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 06 March 25 23:48 GMT (UK) »
No , no evidence in the 1841 census as yet

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Re: MacGillivray Family
« Reply #14 on: Friday 07 March 25 01:31 GMT (UK) »
Malcolm McGillivray and Sarah Lockhart’s children that I can find, Agnes 1833, Archibald 1836, Sarah 1838, Malcolm 1840, Robert 1849 and Ruth 1852. My assumption is that Agnes was named after Sarah’s mother Agnes Mair but maybe after Malcolm’s mother if she was indeed Agnes also. Maybe shortened to Ann to not confuse the grandmothers

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Re: MacGillivray Family
« Reply #15 on: Friday 07 March 25 02:06 GMT (UK) »

Malcolm and Sarah marriage in 1830 Glasgow.
Three children baptisms available, born 1832 to 1835, Daniel, Agnes, Archibald.

1st born appears to have been Daniel.
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)

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Re: MacGillivray Family
« Reply #16 on: Saturday 08 March 25 00:47 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Neale1961, I can only assume that Daniel may have only had a short life or is living with another family member and does not appear on census returns with the family

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Re: MacGillivray Family
« Reply #17 on: Saturday 08 March 25 00:51 GMT (UK) »
Post script to my last post, Malcolm and Sarah married 31 October 1830