John Barnes

[Gan Yam]

Also,  in 1901 when he is with John and Mary Quinn, I cannot find a marriage certificate for them? I assume that John Barnes is Mary's brother! as it states he is the brother in law.

I wonder if John and Mary Quinn are actually "Queen". Further down the street (1891) from James and Mary Jane,  there  is a John Queen and Mary Queen. The entry says they are married but cant find a marriage prior to this date, except in 1863 and that doesnt relate to the ages of 1891 Mary and John. However there is a marriage for John "McQueen" and Mary Barnes in June quarter 1892.
It would mean they married after the census, but I have examples in my tree were they say they are married, but actually get married at a later date.

(Having a Quinn in my tree, they are also recorded as Quin, Queen and McQueen, thinks its the accent!)

[redbank]

Thank you for the information regarding John and Mary Quinn, will take a look.

I did see today that their is a John Quinn in Carlisle Barracks that I maybe should take a closer look at.
Also I thought about sending for her second marriage certificate to John Wooler in 1902, as she may have given her father's information.
Thank you.

[redbank]

Just an update.
Found the death of John Michael Queen in November 1901 of Collier Lane, age 38 in the Carlisle Journal, but the Census has him as Quinn and the GRO on his death.
I received the marriage certificate of his widow wife marrying, 1902,Mary Quinn and John Wooler, which does say that her father is James Barnes,deceased, General Labourer, it was difficult to read as Quinn or Queen.

That still puts me with my John Barnes (Groom/General labourer) who is living with with Mary at Collier Lane,as her brother, but on his marriage certicate 1903, with his father listed as (John Barnes, deceased, Nursey Gardner)
Thank you everyone who tried to help.