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Arthur Edward Brown - Parents?
« on: Monday 03 March 25 21:55 GMT (UK) »
Hello all,   I'm struggling to find my wife's great, great grandfathers parent's. So the information I already have: Arthur Edward Brown was born in abt 1886 in Wiltshire or Somerset. He married May (or could be Mabel) Selway (b 1884 Cardiff) they had three children; Arthur Brinley Brown (1910 - 1917), Veronica Daisy Brown (1911 - 1997, my wife's fathers mother) and Dorothy Selway Brown (1913 - ?) I did find a birth record for a Arthur Edward Brown, born 1886 in Clutton, Somerset with his mothers maiden name of Wiltshire but I'm unsure if this is correct. Any help  in this matter would be gratefully received . Kind Regards
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Re: Arthur Edward Brown - Parents?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 03 March 25 22:34 GMT (UK) »
Do you have him on the various censuses?  What birthplace is given - You give Wiltshire & Somerset

Have you bought the marriage cert to see who he names as his father?  The marriage was 1909

The Welsh 1911 have 2 Arthur Browns married to a Mabel & both b Wiltshire - which one is yours?
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Re: Arthur Edward Brown - Parents?
« Reply #2 on: Monday 03 March 25 22:45 GMT (UK) »
Arthur Brinley Browns mmn is shown as Senway

The other has a son Walter Henry b Oxfordshire & mmn was Walter

Veronica Daisy’s mmn was Delway on GRO online

Dorothy’s is Selway
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Re: Arthur Edward Brown - Parents?
« Reply #3 on: Monday 03 March 25 22:56 GMT (UK) »
Arthur Brinley Brown was baptised 25.12.10 in Keevil Wiltshire
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Re: Arthur Edward Brown - Parents?
« Reply #4 on: Monday 03 March 25 23:01 GMT (UK) »
1911 gives his pob..looks like Keevil, Wilts. Couple married 1909

1911 - https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/2353/records/531245

There is this 1891 - https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/6598/records/16965909

Looks like mother is nee Wiltshire, would still obtain their marriage to confirm father.

Keevil, Wiltshire, England
George Brown 35   Head
Sarah Brown   33   Wife
Henry George Thomas Brown 9   Son
Rose Annie Brown 7   Daughter
Arthur Edward Brown 5   Son, b Chew Magna, Somerset. (Would come under Clutton)
Florence Mary Brown 2 Daughter

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Arthur Edward Brown - Parents?
« Reply #5 on: Monday 03 March 25 23:05 GMT (UK) »
Likely baptism

https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/61188/records/1295228

Name   Arthur Edward Brown
Baptism Date   2 Jan 1887
Baptism Place   Bulkington, Christchurch, Wiltshire, England
Father   George Brown
Mother   Sarah Brown
Address Keevil

(May have thought born Keevil. Parents still there 1901)

1901 - https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/7814/records/10973885

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Arthur Edward Brown - Parents?
« Reply #6 on: Monday 03 March 25 23:14 GMT (UK) »

three children; Arthur Brinley Brown (1910 - 1917), Veronica Daisy Brown (1911 - 1997, my wife's fathers mother) and Dorothy Selway Brown (1913 - ?)

For info.

Marriage Jun 1937
Selway-Brown Dorothy    Logan    Uxbridge    3a   247

Dorothy Selway Logan Age 82
Birth 21 Aug 1913
Mar 1996 Surrey Mid-eastern
Register Number   2C District and Subdistrict   7561C Entry Number   266
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/214233504/dorothy-selway-logan

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Re: Arthur Edward Brown - Parents?
« Reply #7 on: Monday 03 March 25 23:36 GMT (UK) »
Possible accident for son, not with family in 1921. There is a death reg in 1917.

Arthur Brinley Brown
Topic   Accident or Emergency Incident
Residence Date   4 Aug 1917
Residence Place   Pontypridd, Mid Glamorgan, Wales
Publication Date   4 Aug 1917
Publication Place   Pontypridd, Mid Glamorgan, Wales
Newspaper Title   The Observer

Cannot locate in Newspapers Library Wales, maybe they don't have the Observer.

Added - Just reread your post, can see you have his death.

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Arthur Edward Brown - Parents?
« Reply #8 on: Tuesday 04 March 25 18:38 GMT (UK) »
Hi all, thank you all, Carole W, Cas and Ladyhawk, for your help and research, the information you have supplied looks very much like the correct line to follow, but I agree, obtaining a marriage certificate would be the correct way forward to confirm your findings. Again , thank you for replying and helping out. Many kind regards, Daiwalker
Parker