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John Busby of ????
« on: Friday 28 February 25 21:53 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Please could someone help me work out where John Busby is from, I expected him to be from Cleveley (Enstone) which may have has multiple spellings but now I am not too sure. The place is in the county of Oxford (I couldn't fit that bit in as it made the file to big).
Any thoughts or suggestions would be gratefully received.
Best wishes,
Emma

ps I will add other samples below but am struggling with file size!
Sweetland (Chard/Yarcoombe/Honiton)
Garret/Stacey (Somerset)
Boultern/Boulton (Reading)
Crowther (Wolverhampton/Wednesbury/Birmingham)
Myres (Wolverhampton)
Palmer (Nottingham)
Cosby (Leighton Buzzard/Woodstock/Kidlington)
Hope (Oxford/Kidlington/Woodstock)
Williams (Yorkshire/Conisborough)
Draper (Bow Brickhill)
Draper Smith (Bow Brickhill/Woburn Sands)
Smith (Woburn Sands)

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Re: John Busby of ????
« Reply #1 on: Friday 28 February 25 21:55 GMT (UK) »
a bit more, perhaps they mis transcribed it as Clisley or Clifely rather than Cleveley? I don't think it is Chosely but it could be somewhere else?
Sweetland (Chard/Yarcoombe/Honiton)
Garret/Stacey (Somerset)
Boultern/Boulton (Reading)
Crowther (Wolverhampton/Wednesbury/Birmingham)
Myres (Wolverhampton)
Palmer (Nottingham)
Cosby (Leighton Buzzard/Woodstock/Kidlington)
Hope (Oxford/Kidlington/Woodstock)
Williams (Yorkshire/Conisborough)
Draper (Bow Brickhill)
Draper Smith (Bow Brickhill/Woburn Sands)
Smith (Woburn Sands)

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Re: John Busby of ????
« Reply #2 on: Friday 28 February 25 21:56 GMT (UK) »
North Aston and Walton
Sweetland (Chard/Yarcoombe/Honiton)
Garret/Stacey (Somerset)
Boultern/Boulton (Reading)
Crowther (Wolverhampton/Wednesbury/Birmingham)
Myres (Wolverhampton)
Palmer (Nottingham)
Cosby (Leighton Buzzard/Woodstock/Kidlington)
Hope (Oxford/Kidlington/Woodstock)
Williams (Yorkshire/Conisborough)
Draper (Bow Brickhill)
Draper Smith (Bow Brickhill/Woburn Sands)
Smith (Woburn Sands)

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Re: John Busby of ????
« Reply #3 on: Friday 28 February 25 21:59 GMT (UK) »
Last sample James Annsley/Ausley Eynsham
Sweetland (Chard/Yarcoombe/Honiton)
Garret/Stacey (Somerset)
Boultern/Boulton (Reading)
Crowther (Wolverhampton/Wednesbury/Birmingham)
Myres (Wolverhampton)
Palmer (Nottingham)
Cosby (Leighton Buzzard/Woodstock/Kidlington)
Hope (Oxford/Kidlington/Woodstock)
Williams (Yorkshire/Conisborough)
Draper (Bow Brickhill)
Draper Smith (Bow Brickhill/Woburn Sands)
Smith (Woburn Sands)


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Re: John Busby of ????
« Reply #4 on: Friday 28 February 25 22:58 GMT (UK) »
The name Choley leapt out at me which is very unusual for this older style writing

I wonder if it is Cholsey?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholsey

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Re: John Busby of ????
« Reply #5 on: Friday 28 February 25 23:23 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Thanks so much for taking a look. Much appreciated. I can't work out the letter between the h/l at the start and the o.
It is such a shame, it is a 4 page document and this isn't repeated or if it is, it is in the text that is damaged or torn off!!!
Best wishes :)
Sweetland (Chard/Yarcoombe/Honiton)
Garret/Stacey (Somerset)
Boultern/Boulton (Reading)
Crowther (Wolverhampton/Wednesbury/Birmingham)
Myres (Wolverhampton)
Palmer (Nottingham)
Cosby (Leighton Buzzard/Woodstock/Kidlington)
Hope (Oxford/Kidlington/Woodstock)
Williams (Yorkshire/Conisborough)
Draper (Bow Brickhill)
Draper Smith (Bow Brickhill/Woburn Sands)
Smith (Woburn Sands)

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Re: John Busby of ????
« Reply #6 on: Saturday 01 March 25 01:55 GMT (UK) »
Some thoughts:

1.  I'm not at all convinced that it begins with C.  Can you please find and clip one or two examples each of both C and O for comparison.

2.  No modern forms of h are visible in the posted clips.  Unless you can see an example elsewhere, the second letter is likely to be l.

3.  There's an apparent top of a long-s near the middle of the word.  However, other examples of long-s in his writing - Busby, last, Aston, Ansley and Ensham - don't have this type of tall and curvaceous top.  Can you find another example with this top?


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Re: John Busby of ????
« Reply #7 on: Saturday 01 March 25 02:20 GMT (UK) »
To avoid the problems with file size, see the posts referenced below.  This allows you to use the resolution available from a large image file to put a decent area of readable text onto your screen.  A snip created from the screen will be equally readable but has a much smaller file size.

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=848872.msg7161611#msg7161611


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Re: John Busby of ????
« Reply #8 on: Saturday 01 March 25 06:27 GMT (UK) »
It looks to me like Clifeley, i.e. Cleveley near Enstone, Oxon. In the Common Pleas records f and v are often interchangeable, for exampe Clyff/Clyve. There are several people named Busby recorded in Cleveley, for example William Busby of Clyveley, husbandman, in 1531:

http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H8/CP40no1068/aCP40no1068fronts/IMG_1021.htm

In this record, in 1530, it looks like and is indexed as Clesley (William Busby of Clesley, husbandman), but must be Clefley/Cleveley:

http://aalt.law.uh.edu/H8/CP40no1064/aCP40no1064fronts/IMG_6881.htm
Mead - Herts, Bucks, Essex
Pontifex - Bucks
Goldhurst - London, Middx, Herts
Kellogg/Kelhog - Essex, Cambs