brick wall help please ! 4th great grandad Bailey

[Emzunicorn01]

Can't find a baptism for Caroline dean 1804

[Ladyhawk]

Can't find a baptism for Caroline dean 1804

I haven't found anything either....Caroline, John D & Eliza Ann BEDFORD are proving elusive on the 1851 census  No births, deaths or marriages entries found 

I took a look at the marriages online for William & Dinah children
Horace & Charlotte BAILEY

Horace 21 occ coal dealer married 1848 London
father William  Bailey, coal merchant,
one wit Charlotte Bailey

Charlotte married 1851
father William Bailey occ coal merchant
The witnesses to this marriage were a
David BECKFORD & Caroline BAILEY

Looks as if they may have married 1864

Dec 1864 Bromley 2a 466
David BECKFORD
Caroline BAILEY
Only the transcript is available on Anc*y they married 28 Dec 1864
Caroline age 39 (bc1825)  William Bailey

Brought forward the 1861 census posted previously

1861c Piece   395 Folio   27 Page number   5
Willm BAILEY 64 Head
Dinah 60 Wife
Caroline BEDFORD 55 Sister Chiselhurst Kent
John D 18 Son
Eliza Ann 11 Daughter

Not sure what to make of these entries 
Are they connected to Caroline from 1861 census? 
Ages are way out from 1861 census???

1851 census
Caroline BECKFORD ? Wife 26 laundress Kent Chislehurst
JOHN son 1 Kent Deptford
Edited - Is  Caroline above the daughter born to William & Dinah Bailey born c1825?

JOHN David Blundon Backford
Baptism 4 Nov 1849 St Paul, Deptford, Lewisham
Father David, foreman of the oil coke mills Mother Caroline Abode Frances Street

Mar 1850 
Beckford    John David Blunden        Greenwich    5   221

BECKFORD, JOHN  DAVID BLUNDEN   mmn BAILEY
GRO Reference: 1850  M Quarter in GREENWICH  Volume 05  Page 221   

John David BECKFORD married 6 Oct 1872 Eliza Amelia BRYAN,
father David Dec’d - image on Anc*y

Eliza Hannah BECKFORD
Baptism   13 Feb 1853 St Paul, Deptford, Lewisham
Father David, foreman in linseed & oil coke works Mother Caroline
Abode Church St

Mar 1853  
Beckford    Eliza Hannah Dean        Greenwich    1d   493    
Beckford    Eliza Hannah Dian        Greenwich    1d   493

BECKFORD, ELIZA  HANNAH DEAN   mmn BAILEY
GRO Reference: 1853  M Quarter in GREENWICH  Volume 01D  Page 493   

Eliza Hannah Dean BECKFORD age 18 married 9 Oct 1870 Bromley, Kent
Father David , Spouse George Albert Webb

BECKFORD, WILLIAM  THOMAS SKINNER   mmn BAILEY
GRO Reference: 1866  D Quarter in GREENWICH  Volume 01D  Page 703

William J BECKFORD Age 12 Birth    8 Oct 1866
Admission 11 Nov 1878 School   Cubitt Town School
Guardian   Stephen Peacock, 11 Barque Street

William BECKFORD Age   14
Relationship to Head   Step Son
Where born   Deptford, Surrey
Street Address   11 Barque St
Occupation   Ropemaker
1881c Piece   512 Folio   70 Page number   3
Steven Peacock   68   Head
Caroline 45 (b1836) Chislehurst Kent Wife
Eliza WEBB    24   Step Daughter
Florence Webb   7   Granddaughter. >>>>> mn BECKFORD (GRO indexes)
plus lodger & visitor

Caroline BECKFORD age 39 married Stephen PEACOCK age 54 17 Aug 1873 Bromley, Kent Father William BAILEY - transcript only

[softly softly]

Well done Ladyhawk, a great bit of research and sleuthing.

SS

[jonwarrn]

We've done Caroline Bailey before, in 2023
Topic: Brick wall … or is it end of paper trail ?? 3x GGrandad ..
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=873737.0

Nevertheless, Emzunicorn01 started another thread a few months later
Topic: The mysterious Caroline Bailey please help
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=876066.0

[Emzunicorn01]

Can't find a baptism for Caroline dean 1804

I haven't found anything either....Caroline, John D & Eliza Ann BEDFORD are proving elusive on the 1851 census  No births, deaths or marriages entries found 

I took a look at the marriages online for William & Dinah children
Horace & Charlotte BAILEY

Horace 21 occ coal dealer married 1848 London
father William  Bailey, coal merchant,
one wit Charlotte Bailey

Charlotte married 1851
father William Bailey occ coal merchant
The witnesses to this marriage were a
David BECKFORD & Caroline BAILEY

Looks as if they may have married 1864

Dec 1864 Bromley 2a 466
David BECKFORD
Caroline BAILEY
Only the transcript is available on Anc*y they married 28 Dec 1864
Caroline age 39 (bc1825)  William Bailey

Brought forward the 1861 census posted previously

1861c Piece   395 Folio   27 Page number   5
Willm BAILEY 64 Head
Dinah 60 Wife
Caroline BEDFORD 55 Sister Chiselhurst Kent
John D 18 Son
Eliza Ann 11 Daughter

Not sure what to make of these entries 
Are they connected to Caroline from 1861 census? 
Ages are way out from 1861 census???

1851 census
Caroline BECKFORD ? Wife 26 laundress Kent Chislehurst
JOHN son 1 Kent Deptford
Edited - Is  Caroline above the daughter born to William & Dinah Bailey born c1825?

JOHN David Blundon Backford
Baptism 4 Nov 1849 St Paul, Deptford, Lewisham
Father David, foreman of the oil coke mills Mother Caroline Abode Frances Street

Mar 1850 
Beckford    John David Blunden        Greenwich    5   221

BECKFORD, JOHN  DAVID BLUNDEN   mmn BAILEY
GRO Reference: 1850  M Quarter in GREENWICH  Volume 05  Page 221   

John David BECKFORD married 6 Oct 1872 Eliza Amelia BRYAN,
father David Dec’d - image on Anc*y

Eliza Hannah BECKFORD
Baptism   13 Feb 1853 St Paul, Deptford, Lewisham
Father David, foreman in linseed & oil coke works Mother Caroline
Abode Church St

Mar 1853  
Beckford    Eliza Hannah Dean        Greenwich    1d   493    
Beckford    Eliza Hannah Dian        Greenwich    1d   493

BECKFORD, ELIZA  HANNAH DEAN   mmn BAILEY
GRO Reference: 1853  M Quarter in GREENWICH  Volume 01D  Page 493   

Eliza Hannah Dean BECKFORD age 18 married 9 Oct 1870 Bromley, Kent
Father David , Spouse George Albert Webb

BECKFORD, WILLIAM  THOMAS SKINNER   mmn BAILEY
GRO Reference: 1866  D Quarter in GREENWICH  Volume 01D  Page 703

William J BECKFORD Age 12 Birth    8 Oct 1866
Admission 11 Nov 1878 School   Cubitt Town School
Guardian   Stephen Peacock, 11 Barque Street

William BECKFORD Age   14
Relationship to Head   Step Son
Where born   Deptford, Surrey
Street Address   11 Barque St
Occupation   Ropemaker
1881c Piece   512 Folio   70 Page number   3
Steven Peacock   68   Head
Caroline 45 (b1836) Chislehurst Kent Wife
Eliza WEBB    24   Step Daughter
Florence Webb   7   Granddaughter. >>>>> mn BECKFORD (GRO indexes)
plus lodger & visitor

Caroline BECKFORD age 39 married Stephen PEACOCK age 54 17 Aug 1873 Bromley, Kent Father William BAILEY - transcript only

Thank you so much for your help xx

[Emzunicorn01]

We've done Caroline Bailey before, in 2023
Topic: Brick wall … or is it end of paper trail ?? 3x GGrandad ..
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=873737.0

Nevertheless, Emzunicorn01 started another thread a few months later
Topic: The mysterious Caroline Bailey please help
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=876066.0

I'm very sorry as I'm not very good at forums . I will click on that link and look over it again . Thank you