Origin of McCrums around Newry

[Corinne McCrum]

Hi, my line of McCrums starts with Moses mcCrum (1790 - 1874) lived in Rienroe, Rathfriland, as did his ancestors until my grandad Samuel McCrum's siblings sold the smallholding in the 1950s.
I can't see from all all the Newry Mccrum records the relation with other McCrums in the area but they obviously were related. It seems that McCrums were like Smiths in that area at that time!
I have found that in Poltalloch in Argylshire there is a stone with the name McCrum in Ogham (Celtic/Gaelic language) and I believe others came from Whithorn, SW Scotland.
Any links known about the origins of the McCrums in Scotland?

[KGarrad]

Hi, my line of McCrums starts with Moses mcCrum (1790 - 1874) lived in Rienroe, Rathfriland, as did his ancestors until my grandad Samuel McCrum's siblings sold the smallholding in the 1950s.

I think you mean descendants?

Ancestors are the previous, earlier, generations

[Corinne McCrum]

Oooops, more haste less speed & it was early is my excuse!

[Corinne McCrum]

I would like to find the link with these McCrums: Robert Garmany McCrum (1827-1915), of Milford House, County Armagh, High Sheriff of County Armagh, 1889, wedded, in 1864, Anne Eliza Riddall, of Armagh, and had issue,
WILLIAM McCrum, his heir, invented the penalty kick,  (1865-1932)
Harriette McCrum, b 1867.

[aghadowey]

I would like to find the link with these McCrums: Robert Garmany McCrum (1827-1915), of Milford House, County Armagh, High Sheriff of County Armagh, 1889, wedded, in 1864, Anne Eliza Riddall, of Armagh, and had issue,
WILLIAM McCrum, his heir, invented the penalty kick,  (1865-1932)
Harriette McCrum, b 1867.

Not much different than tracing your own line really. Just start a family tree for them and see if you can find a connection.
Marriage gives Robert's father as William McCrum a linen manufacturer-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/marriage_returns/marriages_1864/11607/8272066.pdf

Robert was the informant when his father William died-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/deaths_returns/deaths_1879/06531/4881835.pdf
Unfortunately William left no Will-
Letters of Administration of the personal estate of William M'Crum late of Millford County Armagh Esquire deceased who died 6 February 1879 at same place were granted at Armagh to Robert Garmany M'Crum of Millford (Armagh) aforesaid Esquire the Son of said deceased.

[Corinne McCrum]

I think I'll probably need to go back to Scotland or when McCrums first came to Ireland. Good idea re building their family tree but that seems intrusive as it isn't my family. Also, the current Robert McCrum is an author, his dad Michael McCrum, who I met was Vice-Chancellor of Cambridge Univ so it seems like I'm celebrity hunting but actually I'm more interested in the joint Scottish origins.

[Corinne McCrum]

This blog gives the known info: https://lordbelmontinnorthernireland.blogspot.com/2014/05/milford-house.html

[aghadowey]

First you need to check in IRELAND for all possible clues before trying to link into any Scottish records. Not sure why you think researching the other family is intrusive- surely it's no different than using DNA to establish connections to other possible relatives.

[Corinne McCrum]

It's because you have to agree to someone else contacting you re their DNA linking with yours. For a famous family, there is no breadcrumb trail, which seems like they don't want it tracked. I did try searching on my Ancestry account & no joy for any of them which is surprising.