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Re: Help please - David H Jones and wife Gwenllian, 1861 in Rhymney, Bedwellty
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 25 February 25 17:36 GMT (UK) »
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I have found the relevant census return for Tredegar Road, Rhymney - Bedwellty > Tredegar > District 17.

What piece number & folio is it?   

Not sure, where do I find that info please?

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Re: Help please - David H Jones and wife Gwenllian, 1861 in Rhymney, Bedwellty
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 25 February 25 17:54 GMT (UK) »
Your reply says you have found the relevant census return for the road so you presumably have names of residents?   Turn up the actual entry for that resident to get the piece/folio/page number

I suspect you haven't actually found any image for that road - is that correct?  I don't know what you have found or where you have found it

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Re: Help please - David H Jones and wife Gwenllian, 1861 in Rhymney, Bedwellty
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 25 February 25 18:12 GMT (UK) »
Piece 4000, folio 65

I'm using Ancestry, so I've seen the images for the census and I've been through it page by page reading names off the image rather than relying on Ancestry's indexing/transcriptions.

Tredegar Road starts on page one and runs for a number of pages.

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Re: Help please - David H Jones and wife Gwenllian, 1861 in Rhymney, Bedwellty
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 26 February 25 13:14 GMT (UK) »
As Mabel Bagshawe said there are missing 1861 censues. Those on the FindMyPast do not include the area Tredgar Rd was in, however, those are only the ones known (as the description says).

So looking at Trdegar Rd, there would appear to be missing houses.

The houses go 50-54 on schedule 66-70 p. 11 f 70, followed by 54-59 schedules 71-77 on what would be page 12.
 
Not sure if the enumerator has made a mistake then because the next page in the sequence is page 19 but numbered folio 71, for houses numbered 87-92, schedules 118-127.

So it would appear that pages 13 -18 are missing for house numbers 60-86. Number 59 was to let and the next entry is no. 87, which should obviously start on a non-existant previous page, since it's for Llewellyn Lloyd aged 5 born Rhymney, down as a son. However although there would appear to pages missing, the folio numbers look to be sequentially correct 70-71.   

Edward Watkins born Penderin Breconshire, Catherine born Llangatwg Glamorgan, and Gwenllian aged 14 born Bedwellty, are at Tredegar Rd in 1851
ED, institution, or vessel   23
Piece   2448
Folio   396
Page number   19
Household schedule number   71


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Re: Help please - David H Jones and wife Gwenllian, 1861 in Rhymney, Bedwellty
« Reply #13 on: Wednesday 26 February 25 16:52 GMT (UK) »
Yes, you're right, there are a couple of large gaps in the sequence of pages. That must account for it.

Thank you.