Adopted Grandfather - Unknown Birthname Lambeth 1918

[CaroleW]

Can we go back to “basics”.  The info requested below is dependant on the people being deceased.  If any are still living please do not post info about them - just say they are still living.

Your fathers name/birthdate & where he was born?

Do you have a copy of his birth cert - what were his parents names & what was his mothers maiden name?

Who DID you believe to be his “father” until the DNA test? Name/birth/place

[izonme]

My Fathers name is David Christopher Lever, 23 February 1966, Lambeth, UK. (deceased). His Mothers name is Pauline Rita Howell. I believe the man who I believed was his father, is still alive so I won't disclose that.

According to a relative of the man who I believed to be his father, He said my grandmother and the man I believed was his father, lived in Blackfen, Sidcup, UK at some point. I do not have a copy of his birth certificate. I've contacted this person again to see if he can help with any info.

[CaroleW]

The Lever/Howell marriage was in the Dec qtr 1965 Southwark & your father was b Feb 1966 Lambeth which means Pauline was pregnant when they married. 

[CaroleW]

By 1965 Laurence Bellringer snr & Roy were in Wales although they did previously have London connections

I think Pauline was b Southwark 1947

One of Roys sons was b 1947 but in Carnarvon & he married in Wales in 1976

[CaroleW]

There are only 4 males in that family.

Rule out Laurence snr - he was b 1883 & Pauline 1947

Rule out Roy - b 1916 as he was married & living in Wales

Which leaves either of Roys sons.  Far more likely given they were b 1947 & 1948.  Proving either was  in the London area in 1965 could be tricky as both married in Wales but after 1965

[izonme]

I would say that it could be a possibility. Ancestry states my match could be my 1st cousin 1x removed or my half-great aunt. If her mother is from one of his other marriages it would mean she would be my dads half-aunt and then my half-great aunt. It could be a possibility, i’ll send her a message and see if she has any info

[Sc00p]

...  Proving either was  in the London area in 1965 could be tricky as both married in Wales but after 1965 ...

Pauline could have been in North Wales.  Butlins/Pontins for example...

[izonme]

According to Information about Roy Bellringer's World War II service, after the war he ran a hotel near Snowdonia, North Wales, so I would say this is quite possible

...  Proving either was  in the London area in 1965 could be tricky as both married in Wales but after 1965 ...

Pauline could have been in North Wales.  Butlins/Pontins for example...

[sandiep]

the 1939 newspaper article was about a Roy Lawrence Bellringer age 23 a Proffesional wrestler stole a cape and was bound over for 2 years.
there was also a theft of wine and ale same year