Adopted Grandfather - Unknown Birthname Lambeth 1918

[izonme]

My dad's biological dad and the dad of this match could be brothers. Me and the match have 507 cM across 16 segments, 7% shared DNA, Longest segment 100 cM. And Ancestry states she's my 1st cousin 1x removed (Dad's 1st cousin) or my half-grandaunt. However based on a centimorgans chart 500CM could be half-Aunt, Half Cousin, Half Cousin 1x removed, 1st Cousin 2x removed. So I guess Half-Aunt is still in the picture. Rather than an illegitimate child of Laurence Edgar Bellringer, but it still could be an option

[izonme]

I will send a message to this match and ask when her dad moved to Wales. Olivia and Roy relocated to Wales but my dad was born in 1966, London. This information could help understand a little bit more.

[CaroleW]

Laurence Roy Bellringer married at least 3 times

1942 Westminster
1946 Caernarfon
1961 Essex

There are 2 newspaper articles mentioning him but I don't have a subscription to view them

27. 5.1939  Greater London Evening Standard - topic - Crime

In 1927 Laurence Edgar Bellringer is on the ER for Lambeth & is living alone

13.3.1987 Caernarfon & Denbigh Herald - topic unknown

[Milliepede]

Still a bit confused, I thought the illegitimate child was from the Daisy not the Laurence or was that just a theory and it’s someone else

Can you say his first name as that may have remained the same?

[izonme]

Summary
Suspicion of grandfather not my biological grandfather due to people I have spoken to related to this grandfather does not have DNA match with me.

Unknown name of Biological Grandfather.
My dad born in 1966, Lambeth. His surname from birth certificate is the surname of my grandmothers marriage, not the biological father.

DNA match - Ancestry claims is 1st cousin 1x removed/half grand aunt (507 cM | 7% shared DNA across 16 segments)
DNA match - Niece of the match above, MyHeritage claims to be 2nd cousin. (282.2‎ cM |4% shared DNA across 6 segments)


Grandparents of match is:
Laurence Edgar Bellringer SNR (1883-1969)
Daisy Amy Dyer (Bellringer) (1885-11.11.1918) died of Disseminated Sclerosis, Spastic Paraplegia.
Laurence and Daisy married in 1910.

Children of Daisy/Laurence:
Olivia Frances b Southwark (1911-1972) - no children
Laurence Roy JNR b Lambeth (1916-1998) - father of DNA match

[rosie99]

Have you done a test with My Heritage or considered putting your Ancestry results on there.

Added - would this post be better on the DNA boards

[izonme]

Ok, I'll also ask the match to put her results on MyHeritage and GEDMatch

[CaroleW]

Roy had 2 sons to his second marriage born in Caernavon a year apart - 1947 & 1948

[wilcoxon]

Laurence Roy Bellringer married at least 3 times

1942 Westminster
1946 Caernarfon
1961 Essex

There are 2 newspaper articles mentioning him but I don't have a subscription to view them

27. 5.1939  Greater London Evening Standard - topic - Crime

In 1927 Laurence Edgar Bellringer is on the ER for Lambeth & is living alone

13.3.1987 Caernarfon & Denbigh Herald - topic unknown

1987 Caernarvon.
Only a small snippet for free.

May-September and local people were also going out later for a drink especially there was something good on television Mr Roy Bellringer the president of Meirionnydd LVA told the court There were no objections from the police who commented that the only difference ...