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Re: James Steele (b. 1827) in Berwick-on-Tweed
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 19 February 25 11:45 GMT (UK) »
 :) Many thanks.
Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: James Steele (b. 1827) in Berwick-on-Tweed
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 19 February 25 14:30 GMT (UK) »
In 1841 Norhamshire was still a detached part of County Durham.

What I should have said to explain this more fully, is that in 1841 they were shown as born in county, which has been transcribed as born in County Durham.
If they had been born in Norham, born in County Durham would be correct, since until 1844 Norhamshire ( along with Islandshire and Bedlingtonshire) was a detached part of County Durham within Northumberland.
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Re: James Steele (b. 1827) in Berwick-on-Tweed
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 19 February 25 14:48 GMT (UK) »
This online tree suggests he was born in Scotland, it also has daughter Jane born there  :-\
https://ancestors.familysearch.org/en/KDSS-TF1/james-steele-1827-1897
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Re: James Steele (b. 1827) in Berwick-on-Tweed
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 03 August 25 23:58 BST (UK) »
Anyone have any further thoughts based on the great info from JenB?
Wisconsin: Lytle, Young, Feldschau
Ontario/Scotland: Main, Steele
New York: Van Horne, Hipelius
Bavaria: Hipelius, Trost, Roser


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Re: James Steele (b. 1827) in Berwick-on-Tweed
« Reply #13 on: Monday 04 August 25 02:17 BST (UK) »
Have you contacted the cemetery, just in case they might have records that go back that far? It's a long shot, but it doesn't hurt to try.
England: Barnett; Beaumont; Christy; George; Holland; Parker; Pope; Salisbury
Scotland: Currie; Curror; Dobson; Muir; Oliver; Pryde; Turnbull; Wilson
Ireland: Carson; Colbert; Coy; Craig; McGlinchey; Riley; Rooney; Trotter; Waters/Watters

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Re: James Steele (b. 1827) in Berwick-on-Tweed
« Reply #14 on: Monday 04 August 25 03:15 BST (UK) »
Have you contacted the cemetery, just in case they might have records that go back that far? It's a long shot, but it doesn't hurt to try.

Ah, the cemetery in Ontario? No, that’s an interesting suggestion. I will try that.
Wisconsin: Lytle, Young, Feldschau
Ontario/Scotland: Main, Steele
New York: Van Horne, Hipelius
Bavaria: Hipelius, Trost, Roser

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Re: James Steele (b. 1827) in Berwick-on-Tweed
« Reply #15 on: Monday 04 August 25 11:02 BST (UK) »
This from your original post.

Monday, April 19, 1897
STEELE - On April 19th, at his late residence, 160 Strachan Street East, James Steele, aged 70 years. Funeral private.
James Steele, 160 Strachan Street East, died this morning of inflammation of the lungs. Mr.. Steele was one of the oldest residents of the city having settled here in 1854, coming from Berwickon- Tweed. He was employed in the Grand Trunk shops for many years. He leaves a widow and a family of seven married children, as follows; Mrs. James Main, Mrs. B. Chrysler, Mrs. J.D.Mills, and Mrs. W. Jackson, of this city; Mrs. F. McDonald, Detroit; Mrs. J. Terryberry, Niagara Falls, N.Y., and James Steele, Woodstock. The funeral will take place on Tuesday afternoon, and will be private.

Berwick-upon-Tweed as a departure point:
While not a major emigration hub, Berwick-upon-Tweed did see some ships departing for Canada in the early 19th century.

Possible marriage record on https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

JAMES STEELE to MARIA YOUNG
20/12/1846 Haddington (East Lothian)

This on freereg.
James STEELE to Maria YOUNG Marriage 20 Dec 1846
Haddington Parish Church, East Lothian
Witnesses: James YOUNG & David MORTON

Possible record in Edinburgh, others for James in the Edinburgh area.

MARIA YOUNG 11/07/1824 Canongate
JAMES YOUNG/SARAH MURRAY

Jane Steele - b. 1853 in England  (No GRO record 1846-1854 mother Young)-Or Scotland?

Colin
Clarke, Trickett, Orton, Lawless, Norton, Detheridge, Kirby, Goodfellow, Wagstaff, Lowe, etc.

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Re: James Steele (b. 1827) in Berwick-on-Tweed
« Reply #16 on: Monday 04 August 25 13:13 BST (UK) »
This from your original post.

Monday, April 19, 1897
STEELE - On April 19th, at his late residence, 160 Strachan Street East, James Steele, aged 70 years. Funeral private.
James Steele, 160 Strachan Street East, died this morning of inflammation of the lungs. Mr.. Steele was one of the oldest residents of the city having settled here in 1854, coming from Berwickon- Tweed. He was employed in the Grand Trunk shops for many years. He leaves a widow and a family of seven married children, as follows; Mrs. James Main, Mrs. B. Chrysler, Mrs. J.D.Mills, and Mrs. W. Jackson, of this city; Mrs. F. McDonald, Detroit; Mrs. J. Terryberry, Niagara Falls, N.Y., and James Steele, Woodstock. The funeral will take place on Tuesday afternoon, and will be private.

Berwick-upon-Tweed as a departure point:
While not a major emigration hub, Berwick-upon-Tweed did see some ships departing for Canada in the early 19th century.

Possible marriage record on https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk

JAMES STEELE to MARIA YOUNG
20/12/1846 Haddington (East Lothian)

This on freereg.
James STEELE to Maria YOUNG Marriage 20 Dec 1846
Haddington Parish Church, East Lothian
Witnesses: James YOUNG & David MORTON

Possible record in Edinburgh, others for James in the Edinburgh area.

MARIA YOUNG 11/07/1824 Canongate
JAMES YOUNG/SARAH MURRAY

Jane Steele - b. 1853 in England  (No GRO record 1846-1854 mother Young)-Or Scotland?

Colin

FYI, this is not the same couple in the marriage record. The couple in the marriage record stayed in Scotland. The wife died sometime prior to the 1891 census; the husband was still in Scotland for that census. The James Steele in Haddington was a horse trainer / horse breaker / groom. (I know this because their son married into my distant family and I wanted to know if they were the same couple as the one that moved to Canada.)
England: Barnett; Beaumont; Christy; George; Holland; Parker; Pope; Salisbury
Scotland: Currie; Curror; Dobson; Muir; Oliver; Pryde; Turnbull; Wilson
Ireland: Carson; Colbert; Coy; Craig; McGlinchey; Riley; Rooney; Trotter; Waters/Watters

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Re: James Steele (b. 1827) in Berwick-on-Tweed
« Reply #17 on: Monday 04 August 25 13:16 BST (UK) »
Not sure about James Steele/Maria Young couple as they have a Son born Thomas Robertson Steele   14 February 1855 Haddington, Haddingtonshire
This James are in Scotland up to 1891 Census. Wife died before 1891 Census.
James born c 1819 Felton, Nbl on most Census.
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