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Re: Cowie, Peterhead 1841/1851
« Reply #18 on: Wednesday 19 February 25 00:38 GMT (UK) »
I was asking about George's marriage.

You might need to spend some credits to open up new avenues and / or eliminate others.
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Re: Cowie, Peterhead 1841/1851
« Reply #19 on: Wednesday 19 February 25 00:42 GMT (UK) »
The difficulty you are having sorting out your family in the 1851 census might be that William Cowie has been captured twice by mistake – once in poor house and again with grandmother Isobel Brown (age slightly different – but the same boy).

There is also this William Cowie of a similar age in the 1851 census, which you should probably eliminate.
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59026737e9379091b1cc1e37/william-cowie-1851-aberdeenshire-peterhead-1838-?locale=en
-   a nephew to John Watson and wife Isabella BOYD
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Re: Cowie, Peterhead 1841/1851
« Reply #20 on: Wednesday 19 February 25 00:52 GMT (UK) »
I have been looking at 2 families in 1841 census Peterhead

1)     Kirk Street - George Cowie (5) and William Cowie (2) with parents George Cowie (28) and Jane Mearns (married 1834 Peterhead)
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a1402daf4040b9d6ee7175e/george-cowie-1841-aberdeenshire-peterhead-1836-?locale=en
 
By 1851 census – the father George has died; possibly also the oldest boy named George
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/59026784e9379091b1cd5d2b/jane-cowie-1851-aberdeenshire-peterhead-1811-?locale=en


2)   Queen street - George Cowie (4) and William Cowie (1) with assumed parents William Cowie (30) and Margaret Martin (married 1835 Peterhead)
                             I DO THINK THIS IS CORRECT FOR YOUR FAMILY
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a1402e8f4040b9d6ee73087/george-cowie-1841-aberdeenshire-peterhead-1837-?locale=en

I have to wonder if the fathers of the above 2 families were brothers – possibly the sons of this William below ……….


William Cowie (born abt 1781 Aberdour) living Ugie St and later Windmill St in Peterhead
Note occupation is Sawyer (same as Alexander records on his marriage)

1841
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5a1402ebf4040b9d6ee73630/william-cowie-1841-aberdeenshire-peterhead-1786-?locale=en

The son Thomas married in 1849 to Elizabeth Murrison – they eventually went to Australia

The wife was Catherine THOM - died 11 March 1846 in St Fergus (age 66)

1851
https://www.freecen.org.uk/search_records/5902673fe9379091b1cc3e67/william-cowie-1851-aberdeenshire-peterhead-1781-?locale=en

IS this the same man? Age is a bit out.
Register of poor persons 1861 Peterhead
William Cowie – 9 Ugie St, widower, age 88, born Garnsten?
Removed to poor house 1854, died Sept 1864

He is in the 1861 Peterhead census under initials W. C. in poor house in Ugie st.
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Re: Cowie, Peterhead 1841/1851
« Reply #21 on: Wednesday 19 February 25 11:06 GMT (UK) »
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William Cowie – 9 Ugie St, widower, age 88, born Garnsten?
I wonder in Garnsten is someone mishearing Gardenstown? Parish of Gamrie, County of Banff.

William Cowie, 93, mother's maiden surname Gordon, died in Peterhead in 1864. His death certificate will tell you the names of his wif/ves and parents.
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.


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Re: Cowie, Peterhead 1841/1851
« Reply #22 on: Wednesday 19 February 25 14:18 GMT (UK) »
Thanks for all the work and prompting.

Positive result from George’s marriage certificate. Parents William Cowie and Margaret Martin, so definitely the brother of my Alexander. The marriage is in Fetterangus so is it safe to presume that this is the George who is with Isabella Brown with his brother William in 1851? Where then is Alexander (Ugie Street with the duplicate William?) Can I presume then that the birth of William Cowie to Andrew Cowie and Isabella Brown is their father. The OPR confirms Andrew (Mains of Pitfour) and Isabella (Toux) are both unmarried, witnesses Samuel and William Brown of Toux. (I have seen this certificate before but it is not on my saved searches for some reason)

The sibling William is very elusive can’t find anything about him until there is a death at sea in 1890. My Alexander was also a merchant seaman so there is a good chance this is him.

If William is illegitimate I don’t think the family on Kirk Street are William’s brother I wondered that as well but there are so many Williams, George’s and Alexander’s it might be a coincidence.

I will see if I can find out anything about Andrew.

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Re: Cowie, Peterhead 1841/1851
« Reply #23 on: Wednesday 19 February 25 14:25 GMT (UK) »
Might be more coincidences Neal mentioned Catherine Thom is one of the witnesses at George’s wedding Thom. also he mentioned Morrison. There is a Murrison Cowie born in 1853 son of George Cowie and Isabella Clark.

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Re: Cowie, Peterhead 1841/1851
« Reply #24 on: Wednesday 19 February 25 22:30 GMT (UK) »
What information from the death certificate of Isabella Brown?
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Re: Cowie, Peterhead 1841/1851
« Reply #25 on: Wednesday 19 February 25 22:31 GMT (UK) »
Old Deer Minutes

11 March 1810 – mention of Isa Brown pregnant with child of Andrew Cowie
(Cowie says he is not responsible)
Image 71
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/virtual-volumes/volume-images/volume_data-CH2-1217-2/GAZ00894?image_number=71#image_position


19 Aug 1810
Isa Brown has had child and now Andrew Cowie has acknowledged himself as father and paid the penalty.
Image 73
https://www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk/virtual-volumes/volume-images/volume_data-CH2-1217-2/GAZ00894?image_number=73#image_position
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Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
Clark – Faulds – Cuthbertson – Bryson – Wilson: (Ayrshire & Renfrewshire)
Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)