Looking for information for Hawkins Family

[rhawk204]

I am still reading all of the information and looking at the databases that has been given to me. There is a lot so it is taking me awhile to read them all.
I am getting all of the US census that are available and searching for all of the children form James/Mary. On the 1870 census there are 2 new children that I didn't know about. It looks like they had 5 children. I am using FamilySearch but not finding all of the children.

I am attaching the death certificates for James amd Mary. Is that what you were referring to in your email?

[Jon_ni]

The 1st image for James is from the links that Dundee posted in reply#7 and again in reply#11.
Mary's death image is too small.

Familysearch links are fine anyone can open and quicker to copy and paste than attaching images.
Earlier Shanreagh asked for a link to the 1860 census. The 1870 & 1880 being in Dundee's reply#7. Eldest son is the most important to know as likely his father's name.

In your initial post you said things like "I have located a few documents"
"Married to Mary Catherine Baumy Price on 7/20/1854. I have a copy of the marriage license. She was a widow that was married to a James Barrow on 7/2/1852".

If helpful you can still search on Ancestry and eg Findmypast with logons even if can't view images, Ancestry tends to be more restrictive in what is in their textural summary than some other sites.
I find Familysearch rather clunky and more time consuming to search with or consuct a tree on, it is really internally within the USA that a sub might ease research as World won't help in Ireland pre 1860. It is however the info relating to the people born in Ireland that are of most use, not the younger children and events in the 1920-30's.
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1870 & 1880 census:
James Haskins   51 (1819) born Ireland   1880 James deceased
Mary Haskins   37 (1833) born Ireland   40 as Hawkins
Thomas Haskins 17 (1853) born Louisiana
John Haskins   14               24
---9 year gap---
Mary Haskins   5               15
William Haskins   3               13
Catherine Haskins   9 mo         [likely deceased]

There are 2 new children that I didn't know about. It looks like they had 5 children

1870 https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/7163/records/32664806
1880 https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/6742/records/40177804
1900 https://www.ancestry.com/search/collections/7602/records/19775601 Mary Hawkins (61, TEN children, 3 living) at 2305 Louisana Avenue with son-in-law James & Mary Johnston - explaining why only the 3 mentioned on her death notice. Mary 68 in the 1907 death index.

James married to Mary Catherine Baumy formerly Barrow, nee Price on 20 Jul 1854 in USA
based on 1870 census that is - AFTER Thomas's birth.
Mary was a widow at marriage, is Thomas her son or was James a widower also?
A Familysearch or Ancestry tree link might be the quickest so everyone can see the full picture.

[rhawk204]

Ok. I don't have a lot of experience with researching geanology so bear with me and have patience.
I need to clarify some of the facts that I mave have written.

My great-grandfather is James L Hawkins and my great-grandmother is Mary Catherine Price Barrow.
Mary Catherine Price was married to James Barrow and he died after 2 years. She then married James Hawkins. She is not a Baumy. The Baumy in the family would be Mary Catherine Hawkins daugher-in-law by the name of Emma Mae Baumy. Emma Mae Baumy was married to William Andrew Hawkins and they had 10 children.

I thought that I had the correct 1860 US census that showed James/Mary but the one that I have is the one that everyone else has showing a James/Ellen which is not the correct family.
I cannot open the link for the 1900 US census so I can't view the data.

In the 1870 US census it shows that James/Mary had 5 children with these birthdates - Thomas- 1853, John- 1856, Mary- 1865, William- 1867, Catherine- 1870. Note: The names for the 1870 census is shown as Haskins but on the handwritten copy it could be Haskins or Hawkins so is this the correct family.
I found the following children for John/Mary - John- 1856, A Maria- 1857, Peter- 1859, Mary- 1865, William- 1869.

In the 1870 US census it shows Mary Catherine Hawkins as age 37 born in 1833. The 1880 US census shows her age as 40 born in 1840. I'm not sure what the 1890 US census shows but these dates and ages don't match up.

Jon_ni posted this:
James married to Mary Catherine Baumy formerly Barrow, nee Price on 20 Jul 1854 in USA
based on 1870 census that is - AFTER Thomas's birth
Mary was a widow at marriage, is Thomas her son or was James a widower also?
A Familysearch or Ancestry tree link might be the quickest so everyone can see the full picture.

I have not found any documentation showing that James was a widower or not. I'm also not sure that the Haskins is the same as Hawkins so the children may be wrong.

I am still reading all of the information and looking at the databases but as I said earlier this is a lot of information to process and will take me some time.

I do not like using FamilySearch and don't think that it has all of the data that I need.

Thank you for helping me research my family. I know that it is taking up a lot of your time and I appreciate it. You all seem to be very knowledgeable and I don't think that I can do it on my own.

So what steps do you suggest that I should do and are there any questions?

[rhawk204]

I can give a link to Ancestry if that would help.

[Jon_ni]

1870 census is written on the original page as Haskins (the Familysearch and Ancestry transcriptions are correct) but such spelling variations are possible. People also paid little heed to their birthdays and carried no paperwork - when research in Ireland will often see people age only a few years between 1901 & 1911 and informants guessed on their deaths. Children's ages tend to be more accurate with only 9-11 year difference. James and Mary (Baumy Price was your wording as if a 3rd forname, but clear now meant Barrow) may well have been illiterate with all info exchanged verbally.

You stated you had a copy of both the 1852 and 1854 marriage licenses, if James was a widower I think it it would be on that document, does it say Mary was a widow?
James Hawkins was 58 on the 1879 death look for a newspaper death notice for that as the one you have you now know is for a John, there may not be one though.
The 3 children on the 1880 are a good match with the 1870, if you think the 1870 Haskins could be a different family, look for another, also look 1860 for the family together.

I have a US Census from 6/4/1860 that shows a James Hawkins, age 22 from Dublin Ireland living in New Orleans. Not sure if this is the correct James but his age of 22 would be feasible.

Just work at your own pace. I included the address for the 1900 in case you needed to find and view it elsewhere. Better to complete your research in USA, with advice from a local group if necessary, before swimming across the Atlantic. This post on the Irish board will still be here in 6 months or a years time. Could look into Mary Johnston. The 1890 US Federal census does not exist.

[shanreagh]

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Just work at your own pace. I included the address for the 1900 in case you needed to find and view it elsewhere. Better to complete your research in USA, with advice from a local group if necessary, before swimming across the Atlantic. This post on the Irish board will still be here in 6 months or a years time. Could look into Mary Johnston. The 1890 US Federal census does not exist.

Second this.
Also keep a list of name variations and search under all of these, not all DB have wildcard or substitute spelling abilities.

Every DB you come across search there....this can be useful in the US to flesh out why an ancestor came to the US/Canada and who with.  So lists of attendess at citizenship functions, wedding descriptions, lists of mourners at funerals, any land records.

Then be aware that most of the time people did not launch into the new world and make their mind up where to go when they hit dry land in the Americas.  Some had family who had gone before, some had people they knew or of from thier towns or villages. 

I'd spend much time in the US looking uo records for patterns of emigrations, naming etc.   

[rhawk204]

I have attached the 2 marriage certificates for Mary