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Re: Looking for information for Hawkins Family
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 19 February 25 16:35 GMT (UK) »
Dundee,
This is where I found the that James middle initial is L

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Re: Looking for information for Hawkins Family
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 19 February 25 22:22 GMT (UK) »
The death of the man who died 2 Sep 1881 at Good Children Street is registered as John HAWKINS.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS9Z-TQ5B-6

If your Mary and family are the ones I have already posted a link to at Dryade Street in 1880 then your James' death is the one I posted from 1879.

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CS9X-293N-5

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Re: Looking for information for Hawkins Family
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 19 February 25 22:48 GMT (UK) »
Debra,
Thanks so much for the help. The information that you sent for the 1880 cenus is definitely the Mary that was married to James L Hawkins.
Mary Catherine Price was also born in Ireland but not sure where. I have her birthdate as Jan 1839.

I was hitting a brick wall trying to get the information for James birth records in Ireland or immigration dates. Using the correct birthdate should help.

I will look at the baptism records that you sent to me earlier.
In 1980-1984 my father received a letter from the Irish government letting him know that he was the sole heir to some property. Not sure where but I was told that it was a castle. Is there a way to look at land records for that period?

Rick

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Re: Looking for information for Hawkins Family
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 19 February 25 23:36 GMT (UK) »
Dundee - Thanks for the reply
For the death of James I used the death notices from the Times Picayune which shows the death as 8/2/1881. I am going to look for the death certificate for him to  try and get the accurate date for him.
I habve the documents showing that Mary was a widow.
I'm not sure what James occupation was so I will have to research that also.

Rick

Umn, no. The newspaper clipping shows the date of death as 2/9/1881.
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Re: Looking for information for Hawkins Family
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 20 February 25 01:09 GMT (UK) »
9/2/1881 if you are American.  The date was correctly stated in post #1.

Debra  :)

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Re: Looking for information for Hawkins Family
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 20 February 25 11:45 GMT (UK) »
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I was hitting a brick wall trying to get the information for James birth records in Ireland or immigration dates. Using the correct birthdate should help.
Baptism records, as previously noted, not birth are what you seek, could be a week, month or year after.
Emigration records were not kept. Immigration records (passenger lists) should always be sought in the destination country. https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/Irish-emigration.html

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Every one of my father's family was Episcopalian so their religion maybe the Church of England.
If your family were Episcopalian then all the R.C. baptisms online (with variable start dates, some as late as the 1860's) are pointless to search. Church of Ireland records may or may not exist but if they do unlikely to be on Ancestry or Familysearch. Need to name search on RootsIreland. https://www.rootsireland.ie/
Some Dublin and Cork C of I baptism records are on
https://churchrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/

Many (60% of the parishes) are lost, destroyed 1922. By 1922 the records of 1,006 parishes in Ireland had been deposited in the Public Record Office in Dublin, leaving the records of only 637 parishes in local custody.
https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/trace-ancestors.html
For those that survive by no means all parishes are transcribed on RootsIreland, and they have concentrated on the 1800's rather than the 1700's as that is what the majority seek. Some are still in local custody. For Northern Ireland most registers were photographed 1960's but the images have to be browsed on microfilm in PRONI, Belfast so a prior knowledge of the church/parish is essential if one of the ones not name indexed on RootsIreland.
https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/church-of-ireland-records.html

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9/2/1881 if you are American
Better off all typing 2 Sep 1881 or Sep 2 1881 and avoiding US-UK ambiguities altogether, hence (d)d mmm yyyy being the tree input format suggested by Ancestry, MyHeritage, FamilySearch and gene bloggers etc.
d mmmm yyyy was the style used for that page of the New Orleans death register.

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Re: Looking for information for Hawkins Family
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 20 February 25 14:10 GMT (UK) »
Jon_ni,
Thanks for the information. I have no living relatives so I don't have a lot of information to help me trace my ancestry. I want to visit Ireland but was hoping that I could find where my family lived before I made the trip.

I'm not sure of their relegion and that seems to be very important to tracing the history.

Since I do not have much information would it help if I hired someone to do the research?
Would they have access to databases that I do not have access to?

Thanks
Rick

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Re: Looking for information for Hawkins Family
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 20 February 25 14:14 GMT (UK) »
Is Ancestry.com the best site to use when I search for information or are there others that you would recommend?

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Re: Looking for information for Hawkins Family
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 20 February 25 15:24 GMT (UK) »
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Is Ancestry.com the best site to use when I search for information or are there others that you would recommend?
Rick, no, per my previous reply. Paying someone will not assist in finding records if they don't exist, if they do and are offline then it would but as will be unindexed they would require the specific parish, info only you could provide from any potentially untapped USA resources.
Civil birth registration in Ireland did not commence till 1864, Protestant civil marriage registration commenced 1845. Anything before that is increasingly difficult to find as you go back, so brickwalls are hit earlier in Ireland than England or Scotland.

https://www.irish-genealogy-toolkit.com/townland-of-origin.html