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Re: Where is “Whinny Know”?
« Reply #9 on: Thursday 20 February 25 22:03 GMT (UK) »
Thanks, Bruce. It again suggests, I think, that the Whinny Know in question (along with Greenfield to some extent) was too small and/or short-lived as a separate farm to make it into any/many maps.
Peter
Convicts: COSIER (1791); LEADBEATER (1791); SINGLETON (& PARKINSON) (1792); STROUD (1793); BARNES (aka SYDNEY) (1800); DAVIS (1804); CLARK (1806); TYLER (1810); COWEN (1818); ADAMS[ON] (1821); SMITH (1827); WHYBURN (1827); HARBORNE (1828).
Commoners: DOUGAN (1844); FORD (1849); JOHNSTON (1850); BEATTIE (& LONG) (1856); BRICKLEY (1883).
Outlaws: MCGREGOR (1883) & ass. clans, Glasgow, Glenquaich, Glenalmond and Glengyle.

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Re: Where is “Whinny Know”?
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 26 February 25 04:10 GMT (UK) »
There may have been a connection between Moneydie and Blacklaw:
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=718916.0

The births may have been recorded in Moneydie - but taken place over in Bendochy possibly.
It is uncommon, but parish records will indeed record place names that are external. Could have been working over there etc.

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Re: Where is “Whinny Know”?
« Reply #11 on: Wednesday 26 February 25 09:28 GMT (UK) »
Quote from: Kmaleski on Wednesday 26 February 25 04:10 GMT (UK)
The births may have been recorded in Moneydie - but taken place over in Bendochy possibly.
It is uncommon, but parish records will indeed record place names that are external. Could have been working over there etc.
Though it is usual, if babies born in one parish were baptised in another, for the baptism record to say which parish they were actually born in.

Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Where is “Whinny Know”?
« Reply #12 on: Wednesday 26 February 25 10:31 GMT (UK) »
Kmaleski, thanks for trying to help, but Wayne N beat you to it in Reply 2 with the same link.
Peter
Convicts: COSIER (1791); LEADBEATER (1791); SINGLETON (& PARKINSON) (1792); STROUD (1793); BARNES (aka SYDNEY) (1800); DAVIS (1804); CLARK (1806); TYLER (1810); COWEN (1818); ADAMS[ON] (1821); SMITH (1827); WHYBURN (1827); HARBORNE (1828).
Commoners: DOUGAN (1844); FORD (1849); JOHNSTON (1850); BEATTIE (& LONG) (1856); BRICKLEY (1883).
Outlaws: MCGREGOR (1883) & ass. clans, Glasgow, Glenquaich, Glenalmond and Glengyle.

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Re: Where is “Whinny Know”?
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 27 February 25 15:07 GMT (UK) »
As Greenfield appears to have belonged to the Earl of Mansfield, would it be worth contacting the estate office at Scone Palace with all the information you have gathered and asking if they have any record of Whinny Know?
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Re: Where is “Whinny Know”?
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 27 February 25 20:19 GMT (UK) »
Thanks very much for the suggestion, Forfarian.

My wife and I are leaving town for a couple of days this morning but I'll have a go as soon as I get back and report back here what sort of response I get.

Cheers,
Peter
Convicts: COSIER (1791); LEADBEATER (1791); SINGLETON (& PARKINSON) (1792); STROUD (1793); BARNES (aka SYDNEY) (1800); DAVIS (1804); CLARK (1806); TYLER (1810); COWEN (1818); ADAMS[ON] (1821); SMITH (1827); WHYBURN (1827); HARBORNE (1828).
Commoners: DOUGAN (1844); FORD (1849); JOHNSTON (1850); BEATTIE (& LONG) (1856); BRICKLEY (1883).
Outlaws: MCGREGOR (1883) & ass. clans, Glasgow, Glenquaich, Glenalmond and Glengyle.

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Re: Where is “Whinny Know”?
« Reply #15 on: Friday 28 February 25 20:12 GMT (UK) »
I had some spare time last night (travelling) to email the Scone Estates and a reply came in overnight:

"Good afternoon, Peter,

"I have forwarded this email on to our Archivist, Richard.  I have spoken to our Property department, and they are not aware of Whinny Knowes.  Our Archivist may not be able to help but it is worth a try.  Please be aware that I do not expect to see Richard until mid- March as he is only on site 1 day a month.

 "Kind regards

"Marie"
Convicts: COSIER (1791); LEADBEATER (1791); SINGLETON (& PARKINSON) (1792); STROUD (1793); BARNES (aka SYDNEY) (1800); DAVIS (1804); CLARK (1806); TYLER (1810); COWEN (1818); ADAMS[ON] (1821); SMITH (1827); WHYBURN (1827); HARBORNE (1828).
Commoners: DOUGAN (1844); FORD (1849); JOHNSTON (1850); BEATTIE (& LONG) (1856); BRICKLEY (1883).
Outlaws: MCGREGOR (1883) & ass. clans, Glasgow, Glenquaich, Glenalmond and Glengyle.

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Re: Where is “Whinny Know”?
« Reply #16 on: Wednesday 12 March 25 21:47 GMT (UK) »
I’m going to let this one go.

Richard Hunter, archivist for Scone Palace, has replied, in part:
 
“I'm sorry I can't help directly simply because Scone Palace archives (presumably on the grounds of scale), never purposely retained any Estate records.”

Richard also mentioned and provided links for the Perth and Kinross Library service, the Tay Valley Family History Society and the Scottish Genealogy Society, all of which would require personal and/or paid research which I’m unable/unwilling to do.

Thanks to everyone who helped and/or took an interest in this one.

Cheers,
Peter
Convicts: COSIER (1791); LEADBEATER (1791); SINGLETON (& PARKINSON) (1792); STROUD (1793); BARNES (aka SYDNEY) (1800); DAVIS (1804); CLARK (1806); TYLER (1810); COWEN (1818); ADAMS[ON] (1821); SMITH (1827); WHYBURN (1827); HARBORNE (1828).
Commoners: DOUGAN (1844); FORD (1849); JOHNSTON (1850); BEATTIE (& LONG) (1856); BRICKLEY (1883).
Outlaws: MCGREGOR (1883) & ass. clans, Glasgow, Glenquaich, Glenalmond and Glengyle.
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