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Re: Murdoch McDonald (1756-1830)
« Reply #9 on: Tuesday 30 September 25 21:29 BST (UK) »
Trying my luck again with hopes that my Murdoch has popped up on someone else's family tree. I am wanting to know who his parents were, and confirm where he was born.

Murdoch was born in either Tain or Aberdeen around 1756. He married Isobel Ross in Aberdeen in 1787. Alexander McDonald (shoemaker) and John McDonald (twistmiller) were witnesses (potentially brothers).

Murdoch served in 72nd Foot, Garrison Battalion, 6th Royal Veteran Battalion and served in the East Indies in the 1790's. He was possibly also a tailor within the military. He had at least one son, Donald, who eventually moved to Australia with his 9 adult children and their families.

I have paid for local historians with absolutely no luck finding anything more than I already had so this is very much me clutching at straws! THANKS!!
McDonald - Aberdeen, Scotland (Prior to 1853)
Morgan - Ponterwyd, Wales (Prior to 1800)
Hawkins - Mohaka, Aotearoa (1830- 1870)
Denston - Derby, UK (prior to 1750)
Mullinor - Cheshire, UK (prior to 1850)

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Re: Murdoch McDonald
« Reply #10 on: Tuesday 30 September 25 22:14 BST (UK) »
What exactly are the records that say he was born in Aberdeen rather than Tain?
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Murdoch McDonald
« Reply #11 on: Tuesday 30 September 25 23:06 BST (UK) »
What exactly are the records that say he was born in Aberdeen rather than Tain?

I trust that it is Aberdeen more than Tain which is why I posted in this group. I am ignoring anything found on Ancestry. My records are:

Chelsea Pensioner Discharge Documents 1807 (Find My Past) = Aberdeen
Scotland Parish Deaths and Burials (Find My Past) = Aberdeen
Especial Recommendatory Discharge (Handwritten in 1806) = Aberdeen
Some random typewritten story mainly about his son from 1961 = Tain
McDonald - Aberdeen, Scotland (Prior to 1853)
Morgan - Ponterwyd, Wales (Prior to 1800)
Hawkins - Mohaka, Aotearoa (1830- 1870)
Denston - Derby, UK (prior to 1750)
Mullinor - Cheshire, UK (prior to 1850)

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Re: Murdoch McDonald
« Reply #12 on: Tuesday 30 September 25 23:30 BST (UK) »
Now I'm puzzled. In a reply above rosie17 said
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On his UK Royal Hospital admissions and discharge  records
Murdoch McDonald birth year 1756  Tain Ross
Discharge date 8 March 1807
Sixth Regiment Royal Veteran Battalion
but you are saying that this says Aberdeen?

Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.


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Re: Murdoch McDonald
« Reply #13 on: Tuesday 30 September 25 23:44 BST (UK) »
but you are saying that this says Aberdeen?
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On the FindMyPast record of 1807 and the paperwork from 1806, it says Aberdeen. You can see my confusion! Tain just keeps popping up!
McDonald - Aberdeen, Scotland (Prior to 1853)
Morgan - Ponterwyd, Wales (Prior to 1800)
Hawkins - Mohaka, Aotearoa (1830- 1870)
Denston - Derby, UK (prior to 1750)
Mullinor - Cheshire, UK (prior to 1850)

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Re: Murdoch McDonald
« Reply #14 on: Tuesday 30 September 25 23:51 BST (UK) »
Indeed I can.

But if all the records say Aberdeen, where is Tain 'popping up'?
Never trust anything you find online (especially submitted trees and transcriptions on Ancestry, MyHeritage, FindMyPast and other commercial web sites) unless it's an image of an original document - and even then be wary because errors can and do occur.

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Re: Murdoch McDonald
« Reply #15 on: Yesterday at 01:04 »
Indeed I can.

But if all the records say Aberdeen, where is Tain 'popping up'?

I wish I knew, it might at least solve one query! ???
I hate thinking this is as far as I can get when a clan name like McDonald should be relatively easy. I note it's always spelled McDonald not MacDonald and I am unsure if that has significance either.
McDonald - Aberdeen, Scotland (Prior to 1853)
Morgan - Ponterwyd, Wales (Prior to 1800)
Hawkins - Mohaka, Aotearoa (1830- 1870)
Denston - Derby, UK (prior to 1750)
Mullinor - Cheshire, UK (prior to 1850)

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Re: Murdoch McDonald
« Reply #16 on: Yesterday at 02:36 »

But if all the records say Aberdeen, where is Tain 'popping up'?

I wish I knew, it might at least solve one query! ???

You need to look at the 2 available military pension records carefully, since that is where the 2 different birth places come from.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9036202

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9112899
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Re: Murdoch McDonald
« Reply #17 on: Yesterday at 02:42 »

You need to look at the 2 available military pension records carefully, since that is where the 2 different birth places come from.

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9036202

https://discovery.nationalarchives.gov.uk/details/r/C9112899
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Yes - but it even says "Alternate birthplace given as TAIN, Ross and Cromarty". Can you see something I am missing?
McDonald - Aberdeen, Scotland (Prior to 1853)
Morgan - Ponterwyd, Wales (Prior to 1800)
Hawkins - Mohaka, Aotearoa (1830- 1870)
Denston - Derby, UK (prior to 1750)
Mullinor - Cheshire, UK (prior to 1850)