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Re: Irvine Blakely Johnston, born Feb 7, 1876, Johnstone, Renfrewshire, Scotland
« Reply #270 on: Wednesday 05 March 25 17:45 GMT (UK) »
Although I thought that Sophia’s surname at death should be Douglas, I looked for her on ScotlandsPeople and found her as the widow of John Crawford, Coast Guard officer.
Her parents were James Cribbes and Mary Crooks.
Perhaps she has an obituary.
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Re: Irvine Blakely Johnston, born Feb 7, 1876, Johnstone, Renfrewshire, Scotland
« Reply #271 on: Wednesday 05 March 25 19:28 GMT (UK) »


A search re Crawford on the Berwickshire board

https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=889935.new#new
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Re: Irvine Blakely Johnston, born Feb 7, 1876, Johnstone, Renfrewshire, Scotland
« Reply #272 on: Wednesday 05 March 25 20:17 GMT (UK) »
Sometime ago, I found a John Crawford in 1880 in New Jersey, age 34, cooper, from Scotland with wife Eliza 38 from England, with daughter Agnes age 8 born New Jersey. When I found the record, I didn't know about Eliza Boatfield/Botfield. Now I am thinking this is possibly them, living together as man and wife, long before their legal marriage in 1892.
But is Agnes John's daughter or Eliza's from a previous relationship. Agnes would be born 1872 and John supposedly emigrated 1874 if we found the right couple in 1900 and if the emigration year is correct which it may not be. In 1900, if we found the right couple, they have been married 19 years and Eliza has had 2 children, none living. Eliza's age is probably 10 years out in 1900.
John is age reportedly age 45 in 1892 when he married and Eliza is 48. I think the ages are close enough to be the same couple. Several of John's siblings were coopers.
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Re: Irvine Blakely Johnston, born Feb 7, 1876, Johnstone, Renfrewshire, Scotland
« Reply #273 on: Wednesday 05 March 25 20:23 GMT (UK) »
Oh, I didn’t understand the separate clipping with just his name and address on.
Last night I got for free the marriage record of John Crawford and Eliza J Boatfield. I clicked on the German genealogical group and then I was directed to the New York City vital records site where you could put in your info. John was 45 and Eliza J Boatfield was 48. They were both single and it was their first marriage although John had his single written over the word widow. What amazed me was that John’s residence at time of marriage was Jefferson, Ohio and Eliza’s marriage was Orange, New Jersey.
I then tried to get Eliza’s death record, and although it came up in the list, the image did not appear, so I sent them a message. This morning I tried to get John‘s death certificate and I got the message “Oops an error has occurred. Please try again later.”

Maybe John Crawford was married previously, I have searched that avenue previous but found nothing. Would be nice to turn up that Montclair or New jersey connection as well. 
Any luck with your earlier enquiries.
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Re: Irvine Blakely Johnston, born Feb 7, 1876, Johnstone, Renfrewshire, Scotland
« Reply #274 on: Wednesday 05 March 25 20:26 GMT (UK) »
No, but working on it.
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Re: Irvine Blakely Johnston, born Feb 7, 1876, Johnstone, Renfrewshire, Scotland
« Reply #275 on: Wednesday 05 March 25 20:34 GMT (UK) »
No, but working on it.
Sometime ago, I found a John Crawford in 1880 in New Jersey, age 34, cooper, from Scotland with wife Eliza 38 from England, with daughter Agnes age 8 born New Jersey. When I found the record, I didn't know about Eliza Boatfield/Botfield. Now I am thinking this is possibly them, living together as man and wife, long before their legal marriage in 1892.
But is Agnes John's daughter or Eliza's from a previous relationship. Agnes would be born 1872 and John supposedly emigrated 1874 if we found the right couple in 1900 and if the emigration year is correct which it may not be. In 1900, if we found the right couple, they have been married 19 years and Eliza has had 2 children, none living. Eliza's age is probably 10 years out in 1900.
John is age reportedly age 45 in 1892 when he married and Eliza is 48. I think the ages are close enough to be the same couple. Several of John's siblings were coopers.
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Re: Irvine Blakely Johnston, born Feb 7, 1876, Johnstone, Renfrewshire, Scotland
« Reply #276 on: Wednesday 05 March 25 21:01 GMT (UK) »

Think I checked on this link for a death of Agnes Crawford - 1880 - 1892 but nothing came up  :-\

https://wwwnet-dos.state.nj.us/DOS_ArchivesDBPortal/DeathIndex.aspx

Sure there is a better link but I can't quite put my finger on it at mo

Added Link was for much later records.

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Re: Irvine Blakely Johnston, born Feb 7, 1876, Johnstone, Renfrewshire, Scotland
« Reply #277 on: Wednesday 05 March 25 21:36 GMT (UK) »
I did the search without a first name and found Sophia who died 1894, in Montclair, age 22 which I am betting is Agnes born 1872 on the 1880 census. So I ordered the record.
Also ordered another for a Robert M who also died in 1894 age 21, also in Montclair although Robert doesn't seem a likely name.
We shall see.
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Re: Irvine Blakely Johnston, born Feb 7, 1876, Johnstone, Renfrewshire, Scotland
« Reply #278 on: Wednesday 05 March 25 23:44 GMT (UK) »


On no, Peggy - can you cancel those orders.  Don't think they are your Crawford's.

New Jersey, U.S., Deaths and Burials Index, 1798-1971

Sophia Crawfordt - 1871 Sweden - 19 March 1893  (age 22 years)
Death Date   19 Mar 1893   Montclair,Essex, New Jersey
Marital Status   Married

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