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Re: death certificate small to read
« Reply #18 on: Thursday 24 April 25 19:09 BST (UK) »
Birth Certificate of Clara Jane Béatrice KITSON:
https://www.archivesdepartementales76.net/ark:/50278/3df872577ed9b94f584c850dd1c59f70/dao/0/115

As requested by PM, translation of the Birth Certificate of Clara Jane Beatrice KITSON.

On the tenth day of December, in the year eighteen hundred and eighty-eight, at four fifteen in the afternoon, the birth certificate of Clara Jane Beatrice Kitson, female, who was presented to us. She was born on this day at seven fifteen in the morning at the residence of her parents, located at 62B Route de Caen.
She is the daughter of Benjamin Kitson, thirty-one years of age, a Carding Machine Setter, and Anne Shaw, thirty-one years of age, unemployed. The parents were married in Manchester, in the Parish of Saint Oswald (England), on the twenty-fourth day of August in the year eighteen hundred and eighty-four.
This birth was formally recorded by us, the Deputy Mayor of Rouen, designated Registrar, based on the declaration of the child's father. The registration was conducted in the presence of John Davidson, forty-six years of age, a coal merchant residing at 69 Rue Lafayette, and Edmund Wooddock, thirty-eight years of age, a tailor residing at 26 Quai du Mont Riboudet.
Having completed the official record, a duplicate of the act was made, and the parties present have signed alongside us, following a reading of the document.
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« Reply #19 on: Thursday 24 April 25 19:59 BST (UK) »
Birth Certificate of Wilfrid Henry KITSON:
https://www.archivesdepartementales76.net/ark:/50278/1836417f0db819baaaba7ad31ed44475/dao/0/124

Translation of Birth Certificate for Wilfrid Henry Kitson (as requested by PM)

On the twenty-eighth day of April, in the year eighteen hundred and eighty-seven, at two thirty in the afternoon, the birth certificate of Wilfrid Henry Kitson, male, who was presented to us. He was born on this day at five o’clock in the morning at the residence of his parents, located at 62 Route de Caen.
He is the son of Benjamin Shaw Kitson, twenty-nine years of age, an employee, and Anne Shaw, thirty years of age, unemployed. The parents were married in Manchester (England) on the eighteenth day of April in the year eighteen hundred and eighty-four.
This birth was formally recorded by us, the Deputy Mayor of Rouen, designated Registrar, based on the declaration of the child's father. The registration was conducted in the presence of Edward Woodlock, thirty-seven years of age, a foreign sailors’ placement officer residing at 1 Rue Saint Éloi, and Louis Deglatigny, thirty-two years of age, a Carding Machine Manufacturer residing at 5 Rue du Passage Dupont.
Having completed the official record, a duplicate of the birth certificate was made, and the parties present have signed alongside us, following a reading of the document.
Clarkson, Tolladay, Prevost, Killick, Hicks

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« Reply #20 on: Sunday 04 May 25 00:59 BST (UK) »
thankyou very much for the translation of my grandma and Great uncle's birth certificates. The strange thing is she is in my Grandad's birth certificate as his birth mother - not called Beatrice Kitson but Blanche Jeanne Kitson. I ordered the online pdf death certificate for Blanche who died age just 36. Her dad is named on death certificate as Benjamin  Shaw who was present  as she was dying in hospital.held her hand. ps. sorry typing is difficult  on my phone but cant find money for a decent screen like a laptop or tablet.  suffered decades coercive  control of my money. dead partner melted my laptop as put on cookers hot plate. always borrowed my laptop, car, meds etc.  He died of a dissecting anyeurism age 54 in January 2020 as emergency dept left him undiagnosed and died 8 hrs into waiting for a Dr to help him. hospital would compensate but Co op lawyer, no win no fee, told me we just cohabited so can't claim tho couple 22 years. sad I'm denied help for old fashioned expectations.. so in hardship. I'm a woeful Wednesday's Child!

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« Reply #21 on: Sunday 11 May 25 14:23 BST (UK) »
Pinjarra1929

Thank you for your reply - Crikey! I thought you might not have regular access to a PC or were maybe on holiday due to the delay in reponse. Your message explains a lot!
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« Reply #22 on: Sunday 11 May 25 14:50 BST (UK) »
You didn't say whether you had Blanche's birth certificate.

Just in case, here it is:

https://www.archivesdepartementales76.net/ark:/50278/8da78501426520634def4689f5ad889e/dao/0/165  Entry 888

Let me know whether you need help translating it.

I don't think I translated Blanche's birth certificate for you. So here's a translation for you:

On the thirteenth of May, eighteen hundred and eighty-five, at two o’clock in the afternoon, a birth certificate was drawn up for Blanche Jeanne Kitson, female, presented to us and born on the eleventh of this month at ten-thirty in the evening, at the residence of her parents, 5 Rue Desmaret.

She is the daughter of Benjamin Kitson, aged twenty-eight, a Carding Machine Setter, and Anne Shaw, also aged twenty-eight, housewife, married in Manchester, Parish of Saint Oswald (England), on the twenty-fourth of August last.

This declaration was made before us, Deputy to the Mayor of Rouen and delegated Registrar of Births, Deaths and Marriages, by the child’s father, in the presence of Messrs. Louis Paul Deglatigny, aged thirty, an industrialist residing at 21 Rue Jeanne d’Arc, and Gustave Pierre Simon, aged thirty-eight, a commercial traveller residing at 8 Place du Vieux Marché.

After the reading of this document, it was drawn up in duplicate and signed by all parties present.
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« Reply #23 on: Monday 12 May 25 12:15 BST (UK) »
 Thankyou for doing Blanche birth certificate translation.  Am very grateful.  I have a struggle trying to research even brief details of my family past.  Knowing that people are suffering worse currently gets me feeling guilty and ashamed to be losing time reading the masses of nfo about the Fairbridge Pinjarra w Australia scheme that my grandad  was emigrated to with no parental informed consent age 12 to 21.
I can't handle possibilities
of unwished for reseults if I did dna test. but he may also be my father due to SA acts he grew up with during 10 years forced labour in solitary confinement. when repatriated in 1937 he seemed to be forced into marriage with a pharmacist and their 2 children were split. mum being younger stayed at home with daily unnatural family SA. Her sister was luckier being sent to live in Lancashire for most of childhood.  safe from whatever he'd turned into. I believe an unsupervised police.jauling for 6 weeks age 15 was criminal sa
for buying a 3nd hand suit frim 2 older boys if he even did. Fairbridge did opposite of their contractual guardian  role,  he was a ward of state from age 12 in Middlemore emigration child hime til shipped to Australia 1929.
I can't accept such cruel policy isn't getting the attention needed fir the intergenerational trauma we suffer.  mum said Philip larkin poem  thus be  the  verse was true

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« Reply #24 on: Monday 12 May 25 13:06 BST (UK) »
It's a pleasure Pinjarra1929. A dark period in Australian history. The film Rabbit-Proof Fence made a big impression on me and the treatment of Aboriginal children and the attempt at breeding the aboriginal out of existence and the stolen generation.

I've just learnt of the Pinjarra Massacre, which I hadn't heard of before.

You have some story and I can understand that DNA testing might be a step too far. Here's hoping that things get better for you...
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« Reply #25 on: Monday 12 May 25 18:11 BST (UK) »
thank you for understanding.  its a lonely time because I don't know anymore descendants who ended up with Fairbridge repatriating and so reversing the emigration at age 21. there were 3 or 4 on Grandad's repatriation sailing. called Old Fairbridgians. he received no school lessons as was promised to our family.  is so frustrating they can disadvantage generations by doing such an irrational childcare for profits / foreign policy.

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« Reply #26 on: Monday 12 May 25 20:48 BST (UK) »
That's awful! Just let us know if you need any further help...
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