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Friedrich BOSCHAN, a Soldier in Germany, ? - 1866?
« on: Monday 10 February 25 05:52 GMT (UK) »
BOSCHAN /BASCHAN

My great-grandfather was Friedrich Nägel, born on 16 January 1866 in Neuendeich, Glückstadt, Steinburg, Schleswig-Holstein. His mother was Margaretha Magdalena Nägel, born on 13 June 1843 in Neuendeich, Blomesche Wildniß, Germany. I have birth documents for both.

My query is about Friedrich’s father who, according to the birth record, was Friedrich Boschan, a Soldier. There is a cross symbol before his name, which the archivist at the Ev-Luth Kirchenkraus Rantzau said indicates that he was deceased at the time of the child’s birth; he also believes that Margaretha was not legally married to him - perhaps he was already married or died in the line of duty? I enquired about records of Boschan deaths but none were found in the relevant areas.

Friedrich N married Emma in Altona, Hamburg in 1890. They had several children there before the family moved to London, England, in about 1896-7 (a guess - a daughter was born in Germany in September 1895 and buried in London in November 1897). They had several more children. Emma died in 1907 and Friedrich married again and had another child. I’m in touch with descendants of the children and between us we’ve built a thorough family tree, complete with memories and photos from the older generations.

Our big mystery is Friedrich Boschan/Baschan, the (Prussian?) soldier. Friedrich Nagel must have known about his father because he used that surname on his marriage and the births of his earlier children. Is there any sort of military database which might give us some clues? It’s taken me 30-odd years to get this far - I’m in Australia and much of my research was done the old-fashioned way pre-internet: writing letters, sending money, waiting months for answers...  Many thanks.

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Re: Friedrich BOSCHAN, a Soldier in Germany, ? - 1866?
« Reply #1 on: Monday 10 February 25 19:39 GMT (UK) »
Can you post Friedrichs birth certificate. I´d like to take a look of it

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Re: Friedrich BOSCHAN, a Soldier in Germany, ? - 1866?
« Reply #2 on: Tuesday 11 February 25 01:26 GMT (UK) »
Hi,
Thanks for your reply. I hope this works. I thought I'd attached it with the first post but I'm clearly out of practice with Rootschat.

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Re: Friedrich BOSCHAN, a Soldier in Germany, ? - 1866?
« Reply #3 on: Tuesday 11 February 25 20:59 GMT (UK) »
Hi
i found the original entry for Friedrich
Here´s the entry. if you want the whole page send me your Emailaddress per PN

I can´t read all of it but here´s my 2 cents:

F   Siehe nebenstehende Bemerkung

Friedrich Baschen, der Margaretha Magdalena Nagel
ehe(liche) Tochter von weiland Käthner Hein(rich) Nagel und Gesche geb.
Mehlen von Neuen Deich in der Blomeschen Wildniß
u(nd) angeblich des verstorbenen preußischen Soldaten weil(and) Friedrich Baschen
unehelicher Sohn. Aufenth(alt) der Mutter m.d.a.p: Altona

Gev(attern): 1 Heinrich Ehlers; 2 Hinrich Kühl; 3 Martin Rickels

?: Geburts Heimatsrecht x 22 Jahre alt
des Kindes sind von der
Altonaer Kommun anerkannt u. auf
Antrag des xxxwalts(?) notiert

-------------------------

F   See foot note on the side

Friedrich Baschen, illegitimate son of Margaretha Magdalena Nagel, the legitimate daughter
of the deceased cottager Heinrich Nagel and his wife Gesche nee Mehlen from Neuendeich,
Blomeschen Wildniß
the father was allegedley the deceased Prussian Soldier Friedrich Baschen
the Mother resident in ??m.d.a.p?? Altona

Godparents: 1 Heinrich Ehlers; 2 Hinrich Kühl; 3 Martin Rickels

F - Footnote:
?: the childs right of residence by birth, is recognized by the Altoner authorities, 22 Jahre alt??
the claim was noted by request of the lawyer????

I also found the original entry of the mothers birth
Dave


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Re: Friedrich BOSCHAN, a Soldier in Germany, ? - 1866?
« Reply #4 on: Tuesday 11 February 25 22:46 GMT (UK) »
Hi davecapps,

Thank you so much for this - I believed Frederick was illegitimate but having it confirmed in such detail is great. His mother clearly went to some lengths to make sure he had the best chance in society of the time. I have a birth/baptism record for his mother - it's a transcription sent by the same Ev-Luth church archivist that sent the transcription for Frederick's baptism - but, given the difference between that one and the original you sent, there could be more information on that one too. My email address is *

Cheers!

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Re: Friedrich BOSCHAN, a Soldier in Germany, ? - 1866?
« Reply #5 on: Wednesday 12 February 25 19:56 GMT (UK) »
the right of residence was needed to be eligible to have the right to live there, get married etc etc
I think this foot note was added later when Friedrich was 22 in 1888

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Re: Friedrich BOSCHAN, a Soldier in Germany, ? - 1866?
« Reply #6 on: Wednesday 12 February 25 20:14 GMT (UK) »

Margaretha Magdalena
Geboren 13 Juni
Getauft 22 Juni

Parents
der Käthner (cottager) Hinrich Nagel am Neuendeich in der Blomesche Wildniß
und der Gesche geborene (nee) Mehlen
ehe(liche) T(ochter) (legitimate daughter)

Gev(atter) (Godparents)
?Rabacco? Schmidt
Anna Margaretha Sommer
Christina Boltan


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Re: Friedrich BOSCHAN, a Soldier in Germany, ? - 1866?
« Reply #7 on: Wednesday 12 February 25 20:27 GMT (UK) »

?Rabacco? Schmidt


It's Rebecca  ;)
the E's look sometimes like A's, and the last letter is the same A as in Margaretha

Following the same logic, the name should be Magdelena.

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Re: Friedrich BOSCHAN, a Soldier in Germany, ? - 1866?
« Reply #8 on: Wednesday 12 February 25 20:28 GMT (UK) »
Thanks Zefiro