New census website

[scotmum]

Yet another example of a different 'teething' problem:

For a household in Larne, with 10 correct residents,  the 'Residents In .......' list is showing N/A in the 'Relation to Head of Household' column for each,  and the 'Individual Summary' details pages are also showing N/A against the  'Relation to Head of Household' line. All relationships to 'Head' correctly appear on the original census document, either in full word or with ditto marks. As with other examples earlier in thread with different issues, the original website for this further issue example, does include the Relation to Head on the summary page (albeit the people are in a different order).

It is great that the originals are supplied and that is what we should be ultimately relying on rather than the Residents in Household lists and/or the Individual Summaries pages. However, when doing lots of searches for either self use or to help others (on sites such as Rootschat), being able to quickly scan read down/through the Residents In lists and/or Individual Summaries and trust they have correctly captured pertinent details from said original, has always been helpful and we should have the confidence that these lists/summaries are accurate reflections of the info captured on originals.

[Jon_ni]

I'm sure all have now seen the warning box on all sections of the old site Important Notice (Updated February 2025).
This census records system has been replaced with a newer version available at https://nationalarchives.ie/collections/search-the-census/ and will be coming offline in the coming months. Any updates made to the data will only be reflected in the new system and there will be no automated links established between the old and new census systems. Please ensure you make all necessary arrangements as soon as possible.

The old search still accessible via the Genealogy microsite https://genealogy.nationalarchives.ie/
all databases in it also scheduled for demolition and rebuilding
https://nationalarchives.ie/collections/genealogy-website/

Microsites for family history research
    Diocesan & Prerogative Marriage Licence Bonds Indexes, 1623–1866
    Catholic Qualification & Convert Rolls, 1700–1845
    Tithe Applotment Books, 1823–1837
    Valuation Office House, Field, Tenure & Quarto Books, 1824–1856
    Shipping Agreements & Crew Lists, 1863–1921

Wills and testamentary records
    Prerogative & Diocesan copies of some wills & indexes to others, 1596–1858
    Will Registers, 1858–1900
    Calendars of Wills & Administrations, 1858–1922
    Soldiers’ Wills, 1914–1917

Plans for the future
Due to the vast quantity of material and the complexity of the separate databases, we have not yet progressed with upgrading and enhancing these microsites. While the style of the pages may now appear somewhat outdated, they continue to offer tremendous value for genealogical research. We remain committed to upgrading these sites in the future.


The NAI may not be the only change we have to deal with this year, be prepared that all BMD pdf addresses on IrishGen may also change. 1 Oct 2024
The irishgenealogy.ie website is now fully functional again, our apologies for any inconvenience caused during the recent down time.
Work is underway on a new, improved site which will be live in the coming months.

as announced on Facebook by the Department of Tourism, Culture, Arts, Gaeltacht (NAI and the 1926 census also falls under their remit).
http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tmx/ and http://www.rootschat.com/links/01tmy/
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=885407.msg7589271#msg7589271

see email I dropped them. John Grenham had not been informed or consulted then "our site uses direct links into IrishGenealogy. We're at the mercy of the gods (read "civil service")."

[bread basket]

I just did a random search of the 1851Census….Belfast….Dunmurray…Drumbeg.

Random selection of a name….John Morris.

The below was the result.










The new web planners and administration need to do a lot of work to put these problems right…in it’s present form the New Site is a NIGHTMARE

[CBGenealogy]

There must have been a lot of negative feedback for them to put the old site back online.

I emailed a large number of points to them this afternoon. I know the Irish pro genealogy circles were buzzing today. as far as I know, no one was asked to test it in advance.

@Purpeller, did any of those points include issues similar to those I have highlighted on this thread, or would it be worth me emailing too (conscious of trying not to duplicate notification of issue examples, as that would just create even more workload for them at what methinks will be turning out to be a rather busy time already, judging by these 'teething' problems)?

I do wonder if they forgot the old addage of Test, test and test again, and/or lost or didn't follow, their data migration checklist. I also wonder which, if any, user group was used to do a Beta trial of the new site before the launch.

I think it's worth you doing an email on your points (sorry for slow reply - Rootschat didn't tell me there were new replies on thread).

For what it's worth, some of the errors I was picking up initially are now not replicable, so clearly work is going on in the background.

[CBGenealogy]

I've heard nothing about any user testing.

Although, I wouldn't admit to it if I had been, considering how bad things are!!!

[Wexflyer]

Good to see that the Government are adopting Silicon Valley best practices - have your user base do the beta testing for you for free! 

[Jon_ni]

IRISH GEN has changed overnight links posted to birth marriage and death records on the old format site NO LONGER WORK

[aghadowey]

IRISH GEN has changed overnight links posted to birth marriage and death records on the old format site NO LONGER WORK

Oh dear not another disaster I hope 

One error still here- child's name is DAVID not Davit and mother's maiden name WATTON not Witton-
https://www.irishgenealogy.ie/files/civil/birth_returns/births_1905/01788/1702041.pdf
When submitting feedback for mis-transcription I can submit child's name but can't see any way to say mother's name is incorrect.
I did get this reply which probably means absolutely nothing- "Thanks for contacting us! We will get in touch with you shortly."
Found error number 2 with incorrect mother's name so as a test I put a note in box for male/female!

[aghadowey]

Have noticed that some, not all, pre-1900 births are showing mother's maiden name in the index.