New census website

[CBGenealogy]

Thanks! It's still a cop out. They shouldn't be directing us away from the site!

[Sinann]

Perhaps this site will invent one for Irish Genealogy links as well.

I forgot to post this
Turns old links for census into new, that’s the claim I haven’t tried it
https://daenis.com/census-tools

[CBGenealogy]

It works - I've tested it out.

[Jon_ni]

Turns old links for census into new

Excellent, will bookmark that.

"One major change is that in the new format it is possible to make a direct link to a specific household return record. This converter will do is check if a record is a household return and if it is, it will find the "Head of Family" for the household and make a link to that person that will also include all other household members."

All my spreadsheets and documents link, like on Ancestry/Findmypast etc, to the summary pages that then have the multiple links to householder returns, additional pages with house number, Enumerators Abstract, house & building returns, outbuildings etc.

Tested with a person in already open tab who is an 11 year old son of the householder
https://www.ancestry.co.uk/search/collections/70564/records/17110029
input the household summary link
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Down/Banbridge_Rural/Drumnagally/205684/

output is
https://nationalarchives.ie/collections/search-the-census/census-record/?census_year=1911&county=Down&ded__icontains=Banbridge_Rural&townland__icontains=Drumnagally&image_group=205684&firstname__icontains=William&surname__icontains=McNeill&id=571355

So works but all in Excel would have to be updated manually via edits of url and copy and pasting to & from for the sort of one name databases I have (those distant cousins in the area with same surname possibly related if could delve back into the 1700's). Hopefully when it comes to it Ancestry etc will eventually get round to a similar repair which would fix people in the tree itself.

Still don't like the 'modern' layout/presentation and scrolling up & down to read.

[Jon_ni]

The site now automatically converts and opens oldstyle irishgen civil BMD pdf links stored in Ancestry trees, text, weblinks, documents or spreadsheets.
No editbot / macro or find-replace essential, changing & updating to the shorter newstyle optional.

Rather than returning an error the old format links in Reply #41 and snip below now open the new.
Saves me a lot of editing/grief in Ancestry.

Apart from the church records (they still return a Page not found) as those links have been shortened at the start and the extension .pdf added at the end so d-511-3-2-007 in the example is now sandwiched.

[Jon_ni]

Wildcards seem to be accepted in the surname box if Exact name matches only is left unticked.
but they return NO RESULTS if ticked.
eg due to early spelling variations I used to use W*t*r*l for surname to capture Weatherall, Wetheral, Withirill etc

but of more use was the ability to input Eliza* or Ann* for spouse's forname in the advanced screen and can't seem to do that any longer?

Similarly can't input Sm*th for mother's maiden surname (No results found. Please try a different search), just Smith or Smyth and get results for one or the other.
You can still back-browse and alter input, but as the advanced options boxes disappear when click search if you re-click the down arrow intending to change an input they are all blank again, be it spouse forname Mary to May, mother or spouse surname, or age at death.

Sm?th is not permitted in advanced box for mother but Sm?th is accepted in standard surname box.
You can have an Eliza*Sm*th unticked with mother Murphy or with spouse Murphy.

At the moment can't seem to throw them in at will like before.
https://www.johngrenham.com/blog/2018/12/03/wild-cards-are-a-gnlgsts-bst-frnd/
https://www.johngrenham.com/blog/2023/05/06/irishgenealogy-search-quirks/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHuVF8G2_QA&t=795s

Have filled out their 'contact us' form and sent message.

Edit: Old church record pdf links now also re-connect & open rather than returning an page not found error.

[Jon_ni]

Location is still by Superintendent Registrar District – I had hoped they’d change this to county

Problem is Lurgan District includes 3 counties (Armagh, Down & Antrim) and appears under all 3 in the NLI District pdf text. Banbridge spans Down & Armagh and even if go down to Sub-District level per the titles at top of births and deaths (not marriages) can still have occasional townlands in another county falling into them. Birth & Death Sub-District is not transcribed and entered into the database, so can't use to assist in splitting into appropriate counties. You would have to include results for Lurgan in its entirety for all 3 counties if county was the (sole) selection parameter.
Co Tyrone includes townlands in Armagh District, so at the moment select Armagh and get a small part of Tyrone (Caledon Sub-District), but if changed to Tyrone county would have to include 8 Sub-Districts in Armagh. It also contains parts of Donegal & Fermanagh. Similarly the seven registration districts that total Co. Monaghan contain or are part of 5 other counties.

Personally prefer them linking to the reference maps and leaving as is. Happy that Antrim does not include Ballymena, Belfast, Larne, Lisburn etc and that Co. Down consists of parts or the entiity of Belfast, Downpatrick, Newtownards, Belfast, Lisburn, Newry and each is searched individually.
Agree the likes of https://www.swilson.info/regdistmap.php and https://www.swilson.info/explorer.php can be useful to assist those abroad and those unfamiliar with the district name their ancestor lived in.
They could add County then have a drop down menu select of the Districts within, as FreeBMD does for England and Wales (it even permits selection of multiple districts by use of the shift key). Currently District selection has to be typed in or fine-tuned after an entire island search.