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Mary Garwood baptism/parents lookup
« on: Thursday 06 February 25 04:32 GMT (UK) »
Mary Garwood married John Pickess on May 13, 1817, in Dedham, Essex. John died in 1839.
She remarries to James Garwood on July 30, 1848. Stating her father is Thomas Garwood.
In 1851, I find them living together in Dedham, Essex, 1851 census. Mary says she is 52 years old and born in Stratford, Suffolk.
In 1841, when she was Mary Pickess, she is 40 years old.

I can't find Mary after 1851, James Garwood dies in 1852.

The Pickess family is originally from Horton, Suffolk.
Essex - Usher, Pickess, Mulley, Higham, Macey, Clark, Garwood, Underton, Barker

Yorkshire - Mercer, Bratt, Zanelli, Moal/Mole, Widdison/Widdowson, Walker

Derbyshire - Widdison/Widdowson

Surrey - Usher

Staffordshire - Clueit, Edwards, Willoughby.

Wiltshire - Macey, Burt, Vincent, Coole, Lovett, Nisbeck

Suffolk - Pickess, Carpenter, Osborn

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Re: Mary Garwood baptism/parents lookup
« Reply #1 on: Thursday 06 February 25 05:35 GMT (UK) »
Did she live with a married daughter after her husband died and was given the wrong surname on the census.

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Re: Mary Garwood baptism/parents lookup
« Reply #2 on: Thursday 06 February 25 05:39 GMT (UK) »
There is a Mary Garwood buried Dedham 25 January 1870 age 79  born circa 1791

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Age is given by a living relative who could be mistaken.
A copy of the death certificate will give the name of the informant.

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Re: Mary Garwood baptism/parents lookup
« Reply #3 on: Thursday 06 February 25 05:51 GMT (UK) »
There is a tree on Anc that suggests Mary was a cousin of James  :-\

Mary Anne Garrad
Baptism Date   15 Feb 1799
Baptism Place   Stratford St Mary,Suffolk,England
Father   Thos Garrad
Mother   Sarah Banham


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Re: Mary Garwood baptism/parents lookup
« Reply #4 on: Thursday 06 February 25 08:25 GMT (UK) »
Possible Mary in 1861 living at Pound House, Mannington Road, Dedham 

Mary   Garwood   Visitor Widow   Female   60   Needlewoman   Brantham?? Suffolk

Added - not the right Mary - she was originally Mary Lloyd daughter of James Lloyd and Sarah Fallows  Baptism Place    29 Jun 1800 Brantham,Suffolk

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Re: Mary Garwood baptism/parents lookup
« Reply #5 on: Thursday 06 February 25 20:15 GMT (UK) »
Mary Pickess, widow, dau. of Thomas Garwood did indeed marry James Garwood, widower, son of Samuel Garwood on 30/7/1848 but the marriage took place at Colchester. St. Mary not Dedham. 

I agree with Kay99 that her baptism was indeed the one for Mary Ann Garrad at Stratford St. Mary in 1799.  (Her parents Thomas and Sarah buried as Garwood, he 14/7/1836 Dedham and she 13/5/1845 Dedham).

Thomas Garwood shown bc.1769 and Sarah (nee Banham) bc.1770.  Thomas (as Garrood) was bp.24/4/1771, son of John and Martha and Samuel bp.2/12/1763, son of John and Martha, both at Dedham so Mary and 2nd. husband James Garwood were indeed cousins.

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Re: Mary Garwood baptism/parents lookup
« Reply #6 on: Thursday 06 February 25 20:19 GMT (UK) »
Is there a connection to James Clueit? Or Cluett, even!
James Clueit Baptism Lookup
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=888435.0

Still no response from AR.Usher to the replies on that thread!

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Re: Mary Garwood baptism/parents lookup
« Reply #7 on: Thursday 06 February 25 21:22 GMT (UK) »
Did she live with a married daughter after her husband died and was given the wrong surname on the census.
I'm not sure. I haven't completely researched her children yet, or of James children from his first marriage.

There is a Mary Garwood buried Dedham 25 January 1870 age 79  born circa 1791

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Age is given by a living relative who could be mistaken.
A copy of the death certificate will give the name of the informant.

£3 for PDF  copy

It could be her. The other Mary (nee. Loyd) seems to die in 1887, age 86.

Possible Mary in 1861 living at Pound House, Mannington Road, Dedham 

Mary   Garwood   Visitor Widow   Female   60   Needlewoman   Brantham?? Suffolk

Added - not the right Mary - she was originally Mary Lloyd daughter of James Lloyd and Sarah Fallows  Baptism Place    29 Jun 1800 Brantham,Suffolk

I found that Mary too, and got so excited because I was like "Sophia? Such an easy name to find!" But nope. (She is listed as sister-in-law on one of the other census for the same family.)

Mary Pickess, widow, dau. of Thomas Garwood did indeed marry James Garwood, widower, son of Samuel Garwood on 30/7/1848 but the marriage took place at Colchester. St. Mary not Dedham. 

I agree with Kay99 that her baptism was indeed the one for Mary Ann Garrad at Stratford St. Mary in 1799.  (Her parents Thomas and Sarah buried as Garwood, he 14/7/1836 Dedham and she 13/5/1845 Dedham).

Thomas Garwood shown bc.1769 and Sarah (nee Banham) bc.1770.  Thomas (as Garrood) was bp.24/4/1771, son of John and Martha and Samuel bp.2/12/1763, son of John and Martha, both at Dedham so Mary and 2nd. husband James Garwood were indeed cousins.

Annette
There is a tree on Anc that suggests Mary was a cousin of James  :-\

Mary Anne Garrad
Baptism Date   15 Feb 1799
Baptism Place   Stratford St Mary,Suffolk,England
Father   Thos Garrad
Mother   Sarah Banham

Thank you Annette7 and Kay99.
If it makes you feel any better, James and Mary didn't have any kids?
Gross.

Essex - Usher, Pickess, Mulley, Higham, Macey, Clark, Garwood, Underton, Barker

Yorkshire - Mercer, Bratt, Zanelli, Moal/Mole, Widdison/Widdowson, Walker

Derbyshire - Widdison/Widdowson

Surrey - Usher

Staffordshire - Clueit, Edwards, Willoughby.

Wiltshire - Macey, Burt, Vincent, Coole, Lovett, Nisbeck

Suffolk - Pickess, Carpenter, Osborn

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Re: Mary Garwood baptism/parents lookup
« Reply #8 on: Thursday 06 February 25 21:53 GMT (UK) »
There is a Mary Garwood buried Dedham 25 January 1870 age 79  born circa 1791

ADDED
Age is given by a living relative who could be mistaken.
A copy of the death certificate will give the name of the informant.

£3 for PDF  copy

It could be her. The other Mary (nee. Loyd) seems to die in 1887, age 86.

Probably isn't.
Abode was Broxted
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSL6-P7D

She is more likely to be the widow of Abraham Garwood, who was buried at Dedham in 1861.
Abode Broxted
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSL6-GT

But do feel free to buy the digital image.
It will give husband's name in the occupation column.