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Hannah Jane Smith help with parents please
« on: Monday 03 February 25 18:56 GMT (UK) »
Hi i have Hannah Jane Smith. b23 June 1876 Summerhill Denbigshire.

married to George James about 1905 , but not found marriage cert yet.

i would like help on finding her parents please.

i have her birth with mmn Smith and from FindMyPast school log books in 1881 Mary Dodd is her relative and confirmed birth as correct as 1939 register
now in 1891 i have Hannah living with aunt Mary Dodd- this is same person on log book on FindMyPast.
Mary is widowed.
1881 Mary is with Hannah Jane Harper aged 4 - dont know if same Hannah hence me trying to find her parents. or just her mum as border with Roberts family.

1871 Mary is with Thomas Dodd so i premsued Mary may be Roberts - 1881 Census, plus a marriage in 1863 but dont know if fits and near to where they live.

i have found a death accident for a Thomas Dodd in 1880 which fits with widowed on census for Mary - but age is out .

any suggestions on how to find Hannah birth parents?

much appriciated weenie
Names i am researching are: Riley, Peaker, Jones,Smith, Dobson, Ford, Humphries, Cross, Peckston, Power, Raby, Raper, Snipe Hulse, Whelan, Darling, Morton, Wild, Moss, Ibbotson, Grimes, Broadbelt, Jowett, Nicholson
Areas of interest: Leeds, Castleford, Wakefield, Kent, Westham, Northumberland, Lancashire, Pontefract,  Flintshire, Liverpool

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Re: Hannah Jane Smith help with parents please
« Reply #1 on: Monday 03 February 25 19:04 GMT (UK) »
sorry forgot to add Hannah birth cert says Jane Smith of Pentre Broughton - domestic servant

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Names i am researching are: Riley, Peaker, Jones,Smith, Dobson, Ford, Humphries, Cross, Peckston, Power, Raby, Raper, Snipe Hulse, Whelan, Darling, Morton, Wild, Moss, Ibbotson, Grimes, Broadbelt, Jowett, Nicholson
Areas of interest: Leeds, Castleford, Wakefield, Kent, Westham, Northumberland, Lancashire, Pontefract,  Flintshire, Liverpool

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Re: Hannah Jane Smith help with parents please
« Reply #2 on: Monday 03 February 25 21:31 GMT (UK) »
There is this 1901, which is the same street as the James family in 1911. There is also a married visitor Elizabeth Brown with them, who could fit from the below 1901.

1901 - Wrexham
Jane Allan   56   Head, wid, Broughton
Hannah J Allan,  24 Daughter "
Elizabeth Allan 16 Daughter, Wrexham
Thomas Welsby 47 Boarder

Added - Hannah J not with Allan/Allen family in 1891

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Squire/Thomas/Williams/Bowen/Lewis/Davies/Jones/Rees/Morgan/Lloyd - Glamorgan
Lewis/Davies - Breckonshire
Davies/Roderick - Myddfai Carms
Thackwell/Thomas - Hereford/Monmouthshire
Shoemac/Squire/Keirle/Small - Somerset
Berry/Baggot/Lee/Clayton - Lancs
Yelland/Bray/Trethewey - Cornwall
Baggot/Hurley/Keaveny/Shiel/Flynn - Ireland

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Re: Hannah Jane Smith help with parents please
« Reply #3 on: Monday 03 February 25 21:58 GMT (UK) »
Possible 1891 census
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:45BN-LW2?lang=en

Marriage for Jane Edge & James Allan, Jane is a widow and her father Robert Smith, a collier, address for both 26 Meifod Place.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KC5Y-44V?lang=en

Baptism 2 Aug 1884 Wrexham
Elizabeth dau of Thomas & Jane Edge 26 Meifod Place

marriage of Thomas Edge & Jane Smith
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:KC5T-BM1?lang=en

Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb


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Re: Hannah Jane Smith help with parents please
« Reply #4 on: Monday 03 February 25 22:00 GMT (UK) »
I was just about to post the same thing, to have second opinion to see if it fits

thankyou Weenie
Names i am researching are: Riley, Peaker, Jones,Smith, Dobson, Ford, Humphries, Cross, Peckston, Power, Raby, Raper, Snipe Hulse, Whelan, Darling, Morton, Wild, Moss, Ibbotson, Grimes, Broadbelt, Jowett, Nicholson
Areas of interest: Leeds, Castleford, Wakefield, Kent, Westham, Northumberland, Lancashire, Pontefract,  Flintshire, Liverpool

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Re: Hannah Jane Smith help with parents please
« Reply #5 on: Monday 03 February 25 22:01 GMT (UK) »
baptism in Wrexham 19 Feb 1842, Jane daughter of Robert, collier, and Hannah Smith of Broughton.
Cornwall: Allen, Bevan, Bosisto, Carnpezzack, Donithorn, Huddy, James, Retallack, Russell, Vincent, Yeoman
Cards: Thomas (Llanbadarn Fawr)
Glam: Bowler, Cram, Galloway, James, Thomas, Watkins
Lincs: Coupland, Cram
Mon: Cram, Gwyn, John, Philpot, Smart, Watkins
Pembs: Edwards (St. Dogmael's)
Yorks: Airey, Bowler, Elliott, Hare, Hewitt, Kellett, Kemp, Stephenson, Tebb

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Re: Hannah Jane Smith help with parents please
« Reply #6 on: Monday 03 February 25 22:13 GMT (UK) »
SMITH, JANE        
mmn ROBERTS     
Q1 1842 WREXHAM  Volume 27  Page 297

Added - probably ignore this, see below

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Re: Hannah Jane Smith help with parents please
« Reply #7 on: Monday 03 February 25 22:21 GMT (UK) »
However the only Robert Smith and Hannah marriage I can find locally is to a Hannah Price

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Re: Hannah Jane Smith help with parents please
« Reply #8 on: Monday 03 February 25 22:28 GMT (UK) »
1851- Broughton. all born Moss

Robert Smith 40
Mary Smith    31
Jane Smith    8    
William Smith    4
John Smith    2
Ann Smith    84  Lodger

A Robert Smith (widower) married Mary Dodd in 1846 - births with mmn Dodd for William and John can be found.