Michael Ward/ Mary Ann Dougherty

[NorthernGeezer]

The info I have is off the details/ hints Ancestry and FindMyPast give you, not of someone else's tree, I did follow these hints but as you know, they are just hints and did not lead to actual evidence/ records.
I knew Michael's and Mary Ann's marriage details from the marriage register, not the actual certificate itself, hence the fact I didn't know their fathers.
Your right about ages on records, details transcribed are often wrong, very sloppy documentation.
Thanks for finding Peter, I went on the Irish genealogy site and came up with nothing 
I think I'll probably have the same problem going back on his lineage too.

[heywood]

The baptism and marriage you mention with parents Peter and Agnes is County Down.
The censuses have Michael as born County Tyrone.

[NorthernGeezer]

So STILL no nearer then 

[heywood]

With regards to the couple, John D and Jane Bammer, who you have as Mary Anne’s parents, i don’t think they could be correct either.
The marriage in 1878, shows her father as John, engineer, deceased.

You have John Dougherty’s death in 1889 - after the marriage and Jane's death as 1893.
That Jane is married and her husband, John, is a fruit merchant.

[NorthernGeezer]

Given Peter Ward is listed on a death register in Belfast age 61 on 21st April 1896, putting his birth at 1835, the person registering his death was Michael Ward this looks the right guy.
Fly in the ointment, Peter married Agnes Rice 30th December 1847 meaning he was 12  so, the wrong dead Peter or the wrong marriage Peter??
The dead Peter has the right credentials regarding the son Michael and the fact his death is recorded in Belfast, so is it the marriage that's wrong then??

[heywood]

The age given on the death certificate is that assumed/known by the informant. How important age was - who knows..
The marriage you post gives residence as ‘Gargory’ - perhaps Gargarry.
https://www.townlands.ie/down/iveagh-upper-lower-half/drumgooland/ballyward/gargarry/

That was in County Down but your Michael gives a birthplace of County Tyrone. However, you would need further records to verify.

[NorthernGeezer]

There is a record of a Michael Ward  born 18 December 1848 in Gargory in line with the Peter Ward and Agnes Rice marriage, however................the 1901 census which has the County Tyrone Michael Ward on it also includes my great grandfather, James Ward so it looks like the Peter Ward/ Agnes Rice marriage is not correct.
I would also question the validity of the Peter Ward death certificate in 1896, my Michael Ward would have been 46 then, not 17.

[heywood]

If you look at the death certificate and the birth certificate I posted, the address is 17 - it is not his age.

[NorthernGeezer]

Apologies Heywood, I should have read the second line