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Re: Welsh village
« Reply #9 on: Saturday 01 February 25 10:14 GMT (UK) »
Looking at trees on Anc - Did he marry as John Griffith Jones??

Looking at the GRO Birth Index I found this one

JONES, JOHN  GRIFFITH      mother's maiden name GRIFFITH     
GRO Ref: 1846  D Quarter in CARNARVON  Volume 27  Page 317

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Re: Welsh village
« Reply #10 on: Saturday 01 February 25 10:24 GMT (UK) »
Couldn't resist a look at the 1846 birth and it's not the right John

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Re: Welsh village
« Reply #11 on: Saturday 01 February 25 10:49 GMT (UK) »
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Did he marry as John Griffith Jones??

Yes, and it's also the name on his death documentation.

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Couldn't resist a look at the 1846 birth and it's not the right John

I have looked at at least half a dozen plausible births (and a few implausible) but none of them seem to fit after I trace the familes through a few censuses. I'm basing this on Hugh being a farmer and John being born about 1847 and emigrating to Australia in 1868.

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Re: Welsh village
« Reply #12 on: Saturday 01 February 25 10:55 GMT (UK) »
Sadly the surnames don't make it easy and his father might have died or remarried pre 1851  :-\   

Do you know how old he was when he emigrated??


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« Reply #13 on: Saturday 01 February 25 11:24 GMT (UK) »
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Do you know how old he was when he emigrated??

At his death he was 48 and 27 years in Victoria (Australia), making him 21 if that info is accurate.

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Re: Welsh village
« Reply #14 on: Saturday 01 February 25 12:25 GMT (UK) »
This family may be completely unrelated and the father is a miner but posting just in case,  At the moment I can't see them other than in this census

1861 - Living at Village, Byers Green, Auckland, Durham  - All but James listed as born N Wales N K (Not Known)

Hugh   Jones   Head Married 37 Coal miner   -
Jane   Jones   Wife 32   -   -
John   Jones   Son 13   Driver colliery   -
Richard   Jones   Son 11   Trapper colliery   -
James   Jones   Son 5   1856   -   Hetton, Durham

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Re: Welsh village
« Reply #15 on: Saturday 01 February 25 12:29 GMT (UK) »
Yes, that is a coincidence! I can't feel it is them, but I will check. It shows the difficulty when all the names are so common.

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Re: Welsh village
« Reply #16 on: Thursday 20 February 25 14:36 GMT (UK) »
Hi

Me again !

Two points :

1.    Patronymics were still being used in the western reaches of Caernarvonshire (Llyn Peninsula)     in the 1840's.

2.    Do not rely on Baptism registers in these areas of Wales, non-conformism had taken a strong hold on these rural areas and children weren't being baptized in churches and nor were as many couples  getting married in the churches.

Nesta

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Re: Welsh village
« Reply #17 on: Thursday 20 February 25 14:47 GMT (UK) »
Sorry forgot to mention

Have a look at YFfor.com.   A small donation is requested to access the information.   Many hundreds of hours of transcription has given us an invaluable source of local records for the Llyn Peninsula including Non-conformist (chapel), Parish, Census, school and Nefyn and its surroundings are included.

Hope it helps.
https://yffor.com/index.html