Bakewell of Woodhouse

[Taylor94]

Looking for John and Elizabeth Bakewell.

I cant seem to find a suitable marriage for these two or a burial of them.

They appear to only have two Children.

Hannah Bakewell, baptised 1791 Woodhouse. Marries John Simmons 1814 Whitwick and then George Wetherall 1828 Leicester. Dies 1867 Leicester. In 1851 and 1861 states she is from Woodhouse.

Mary Bakewell, baptised 1793 Woodhouse. Not sure who she marries. Maybe to Henry Rowe in 1815 Leicester.

I don't think these are the John Bakewell and Elizabeth Parson who marry at Coleorton 1776 as they appear to keep baptising children in Coleorton and even have a daughters named Mary and Hannah.

There is a marriage for a John Bakewell to a Mary Eaton at Woodhouse 1789 but the register has the marriage crossed out, so I assume this marriage didn't happen? I know it has a Mary, but its the only mention of a Bakewell in Woodhouse prior to baptisms and fits perfectly as a marriage before the first baptism in 1791.

There is a military record for a John Bakewell who was discharged in 1804 from the 'Royal Scots (Lothian Regiment) - 1st Foot', stated as aged 36 (born c1768) and from Loughborough (Woodhouse is about 3 miles from Loughborough). Served 10 and a half years, which would probably put him at joining at c1793-94. Not sure if this is my John but the join date would be on or right after the baptism of the last child Mary in 1793. After which, I cant find him.

[diddymiller]

Hi sorry i havent been on for a while but I live in Lboro and have acccess to local PRs in the library.I should be in this week (No staff tomorrow so i dont use - protest as was once a librarian)!!


I will have a rummage for you.


Diddy

[diddymiller]

Hi first the marriage you found in woodhouse 1789.... original fiche...yes the entry is crossed however it is repeated below.
It seems on the first one that john and mary both signed (their mark) where the witnesses should sign so probably the parish clerk made a new register.
John Bakewell of this parish  married Mary Eaton otp    19/4 / 1789


Unfortunately no prs exist for Woodhouse Baps 1715 - 1817and marriages  1749  - 1813.


I did find
Loughborough All saints
Bap  23 /8/ 1772 john Bakewell s/o John & Mary Bakewell


No marriages for John in lboro 1749 - 1791 index


2 burials in lboro  maybe yours or not
Hannah Bakewell d/p John 16/9/1796
John Bakewell 1/12/1799


If John did marry Mary first then maybe Elizabeth second marriage ..the only 1851c I saw had John aged 78 and Elizabeth aged 38? Which could explain 2nd marriage.
Couldn't check daughters Baps see above.


Where did you get john= Eliz from?


Diddy... Happy to go back to library if needed

[diddymiller]

I did find a marriage john Bakewell = Elizabth Bakewell  9/6/1794 Boulton, Derbyshire


Boulton near the leics border


Both marriages are also on freereg


Diddy

[Taylor94]

Hi Diddy, Thank you for that.

The Elizabeth as wife of John is from the Woodhouse parish registers on FindMyPast.
'Hannah, Dr of John and Eliz: Bakewell, Sept 25' 1791.
'Mary, Dr of John and Eliz: Bakewell, Mar 31' 1793.
I wonder if Mary Eaton was also known as Elizabeth? I cant see any baptisms of children after 1789 to a John and Mary, which doesn't also have a marriage fitting it. It seems too much of a coincidence that there is a marriage in Woodhouse in 1789 and then two baptisms follow quite fittingly after, but the mothers name is different and I cant see any marriage fitting.

I think the Hannah, daughter of John Bakewell, buried 1796 Loughborough is the one baptised 1787 Loughborough, daughter of John Bakewell and Hannah. So not my Hannah of Woodhouse.

The John bapt 1772 Loughborough, I think could be the John who dies 1842 Loughborough. Aged 70 (birth date of 1772). He is listed as a Pensioner, which could mean he is receiving a military pension, which would fit with the John Bakewell of Loughborough who was discharged in 1804 and had served 10 and a half years, which would put him joining at about 1793-94 (When the Woodhouse baptisms stop). Then there is a burial for an Elizabeth Bakewell in 1845 Loughborough. Aged 75 (Birthdate of 1770), which lists her as a Widow. This could be John and Elizabeth Bakewell who were at Woodhouse.

The John aged 78 in 1851 is of Castle Donington. I can see his baptism and subsequent marriages, so not my John.

[Taylor94]

The John Bakewell who was discharged in 1804 was of Loughborough. It could be that he was first at Woodhouse with Mary/Elizabeth? Eaton, had two daughters, 1791 and 1793, Joined Military. Discharged from Royal Scots (Lothian Regiment) - 1st Foot. This could explain the absence of this family. Then they return to Loughborough area after 1804. Daughter Hannah Bakewell then marries Thomas Simmons in Whitwick 1814.

[diddymiller]

did check the 1811 Loughborough census - very basic but no Bakewells - only general


Diddy

[willsy]

Have you found the other military file for him as Jno Bakewell? 

Wo 23
Regiment 1st Foot
Royal Hospital Chelsea: Admission books
Admitted 22 Oct 1804, Loughborough, Leicester

Both records have recorded the loss of his left leg.