Author Topic: Susannah Gwilliam Who Married Richard Howard Hoskins in Manchester in 1834  (Read 590 times)

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Re: Susannah Gwilliam Who Married Richard Howard Hoskins in Manchester in 1834
« Reply #9 on: Wednesday 29 January 25 22:34 GMT (UK) »
I think Eleanor and Elizabeth Hoskins who share Richard's grave are sisters not mother and daughter, judging by the 1851 census and ages at death. Their brother is the Rev James Hoskins, resident in Marchwise, Denbighshire in 1858

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Re: Susannah Gwilliam Who Married Richard Howard Hoskins in Manchester in 1834
« Reply #10 on: Wednesday 29 January 25 23:57 GMT (UK) »
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or whether he was a widower.

Who reported his death? 
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Carlin (Ireland & Liverpool) Doughty & Wright (Liverpool) Dick & Park (Scotland & Liverpool)

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Re: Susannah Gwilliam Who Married Richard Howard Hoskins in Manchester in 1834
« Reply #11 on: Thursday 30 January 25 09:50 GMT (UK) »
I did notice that a Richard Hoskins was living in Murray Street in Liverpool in 1840 according to the electoral registers but it was unclear at the time if it was our man.

However another newspaper search today has uncovered a legal case  in Liverpool against Richard Hoskins  living in Murray St., reported on 3 January 1840.

Here’s an extract literatim from the Newspaper:-
“The plaintiff was Mr. Thomas Walker pianoforte manufacturer and the defendant Mr Richard Hoskins the well known comedian and the landlord of “Dicks Coffee House” in Murray Street near the Theatre Royal. The action was brought to recover £17 7s 6d …. for the balance of an account for hire and tuning of pianofortes and for a new pianoforte. &c,&c.

I know that Richard Hoskins moved to the Black Dog in Chester in 1845, which also became known  informally as “Dick’s Black Dog Coffee House” so could have lived on  in Liverpool after the court case for  a further 5 years.

There’s still no mention of Susannah Hoskins however unless the Susan Hopkins  of Cockshutt St, died 1851, is her.  If Susannah was with Richard in Liverpool did she stay there when he moved to Chester? 

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Re: Susannah Gwilliam Who Married Richard Howard Hoskins in Manchester in 1834
« Reply #12 on: Thursday 30 January 25 10:30 GMT (UK) »
As Carole says, who reported the death and does the certificate show a marital status?
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Re: Susannah Gwilliam Who Married Richard Howard Hoskins in Manchester in 1834
« Reply #13 on: Thursday 30 January 25 10:32 GMT (UK) »
I need to get the death cert. -wasn't expecting this uncertainty.

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Re: Susannah Gwilliam Who Married Richard Howard Hoskins in Manchester in 1834
« Reply #14 on: Thursday 30 January 25 10:58 GMT (UK) »
I hope it helps.
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Re: Susannah Gwilliam Who Married Richard Howard Hoskins in Manchester in 1834
« Reply #15 on: Thursday 30 January 25 11:19 GMT (UK) »
I think Eleanor and Elizabeth Hoskins who share Richard's grave are sisters not mother and daughter, judging by the 1851 census and ages at death. Their brother is the Rev James Hoskins, resident in Marchwise, Denbighshire in 1858

Not that this helps with finding out what has happened to Susannah - for info.  You would need to verify public tree on Anc*y has following details

Eleanor HOSKINS
Born 12 Nov 1775 Bridekirk, Cumberland
Died  19 Oct 1858 Registered: Great Boughton, Chester

Elizabeth HOSKINS
Born 20 Feb 1789 St Bridget, Beckermet, Cumberland
Died 19 Aug 1857 Registered: Great Boughton, Cheshire

Parents
Joseph HOSKINS b1751-1826 &
Eleanor SENHOUSE 1754-1823

1858 Probate for Eleanor 3 Nov granted to the Rev John HOSKINS of Marchwise, brother
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