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Re: Looking for a fresh pair of eyes on finding info about my great grandfather
« Reply #54 on: Saturday 01 February 25 08:53 GMT (UK) »
Joseph Twigg born 1882 in Frizington, son of William and Mary Sarah, seems to disappear?
Named in his parents death notices. 
But, unlike his brother James Henry, I can't see anything further for him South Africa. 

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Re: Looking for a fresh pair of eyes on finding info about my great grandfather
« Reply #55 on: Saturday 01 February 25 08:57 GMT (UK) »
James Henry Twigg died in hospital in Johannesburg, South Africa, 30 July 1922
Age 50. Born (something like!) Frizington, Cumberland
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSSW-T94Z-Z

So he is not James Twigg-Balmer!

His brother James Twigg-Balmer died aged 49, in 1921 in Rangoon, Bengal, India.  He is listed as a Mining Captain.  I have only recently discovered this fact and as yet have no idea what James was doing in India.  There is no next of kin information on his death record.  He died of heart disease.

Name: James Twigg-Balmer
Gender: Male
Burial Date: 08 Jul 1921
Burial Place: Rangoon, Bengal, India
Death Date: 07 Jul 1921
Age: 49
Birth Date: 1872
Marital Status: Unknown
Cause of death: Heart Disease

Do you know, I've always wondered if this death in India was actually Joseph? Maybe because not much is known about James (other than the mention of him being NOK on Joseph's service papers). Highly unlikely I know but everything seems to fit with Joseph. I guess until I can narrow down which Joseph is mine and work from there we'll have to assume it's definitely James.

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Re: Looking for a fresh pair of eyes on finding info about my great grandfather
« Reply #56 on: Saturday 01 February 25 08:58 GMT (UK) »
Oh dear. I am so disappointed!
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGKD-4PY

Me too, this family definitely seems to fit in many ways but sadly doesn't look like it is the right line. Sincerely appreciate all your help 🙏🏻

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Re: Looking for a fresh pair of eyes on finding info about my great grandfather
« Reply #57 on: Saturday 01 February 25 09:03 GMT (UK) »
How many Joseph Twiggs were there in South Africa?

Probably not connected, but anyway!
A baptism, 14 April 1905, Beaconsfield, Kimberley
Margaret Gwendoline
Born 8 March 1905
Parents Joseph + Mary Ellen Twigg
Abode Beaconsfield
Father a Miner
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GTWM-WR3

She sadly died in November 1905 in Kimberley Hospital, age 8 months
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-956W-8V8

A death notice
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSQ8-3SS7-9

Burial of Margaret Gwendoline Twigg, 21 November 1905 at Beaconsfield
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-9TWM-243

This is definitely an interesting one, I vaguely remember briefly looking before at this child.

There is a Mr and Mrs J Twigg-Balmer leaving England in 1904. He is a Fitter. I'm not sure if it's James or Joseph though. One definitely travels as 'married' although I know that Joseph didn't marry my great grandmother as she was still married and then remarried in 1923 and her marriage certificate states widow (which I assume refers to Joseph being dead as her first husband certainly wasn't, they divorced).


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Re: Looking for a fresh pair of eyes on finding info about my great grandfather
« Reply #58 on: Saturday 01 February 25 09:05 GMT (UK) »
Something odd about that birth/baptism, it's a one off.

Marriage 6 February 1905, Johannesburg
James Henry Twigg, 29, born Frizington, Cumberland, England, Divorcé
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Elizabeth Edith Doran, 21, born Frizington, Cumberland, Spinster
By Special Licence
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C91F-5QB4-9

I really really appreciate all your help with this. It's so nice to get another set of eyes on it as I've been looking for long sometimes you miss obvious things. Thank you so much 😊

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Re: Looking for a fresh pair of eyes on finding info about my great grandfather
« Reply #59 on: Saturday 01 February 25 09:37 GMT (UK) »
James Henry was divorced in 1901 according to that record.
A brief tree refers to a divorce for James and Elizabeth in 1913 and her death in 1926.

James’ death notice confirms the divorce and 3 male children.
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Re: Looking for a fresh pair of eyes on finding info about my great grandfather
« Reply #60 on: Saturday 01 February 25 09:44 GMT (UK) »
Joseph Twigg born 1882 in Frizington, son of William and Mary Sarah, seems to disappear?
Named in his parents death notices. 
But, unlike his brother James Henry, I can't see anything further for him South Africa.

Trying to piece together a timeline.

First mention (I've found) of Twigg Balmer is 1904 when a J Twigg Balmer (and wife) travel to SA from UK. - this could be Joseph or James.

1908/09/10 - member of Masons in India. - this is Joseph.

1913/1914 - working as a Tidewaiter in China. This is Joseph.

From other records I have already found he is in UK around 1914/15 as he signs up to army. He also starts a relationship with my great grandmother (who is married) which results in two children (born Dec 1915 and Jan 1919).

He is in SA in 1917 before returning to England. This is Joseph as the returning address is where he is staying with Elizabeth.

In Singapore/ Penang around 1919/1920 working for Bisichi Tin Mining Co.

(I have nothing before 1904 and nothing after 1920, apart from James's death in 1921).

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Re: Looking for a fresh pair of eyes on finding info about my great grandfather
« Reply #61 on: Saturday 01 February 25 12:07 GMT (UK) »
I have tried searching for street indexes etc, with no success, to see who was living at 2*, Merriman Street in 1914 - just in hope.
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Re: Looking for a fresh pair of eyes on finding info about my great grandfather
« Reply #62 on: Saturday 01 February 25 12:43 GMT (UK) »
I have tried searching for street indexes etc, with no success, to see who was living at 2*, Merriman Street in 1914 - just in hope.

Thank you for looking 🙏🏻