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Re: Do any of these surnames belong to the GRT community?
« Reply #9 on: Sunday 02 February 25 19:22 GMT (UK) »
There is a 1934 Leeds birth with second name spelled Brian.
Can see, I think, his parents on the 1939, but two redacted entries.
So either not yet deceased or died in another country


So as Darnity said, you will need to get your grandparent’s  marriage certificate.
If you are not sure of your grandmother’s previous surname look for your father’s birth in the freebmd indexes.
Hopefully not too common, and only one obvious marriage which you can then order from the GRO to age occupation & father’s  name.

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Re: Do any of these surnames belong to the GRT community?
« Reply #10 on: Sunday 02 February 25 19:32 GMT (UK) »
There is a 1934 Leeds birth with second name spelled Brian.
Can see, I think, his parents on the 1939, but two redacted entries.
So either not yet deceased or died in another country


So as Darnity said, you will need to get your grandparent’s  marriage certificate.
If you are not sure of your grandmother’s previous surname look for your father’s birth in the freebmd indexes.
Hopefully not too common, and only one obvious marriage which you can then order from the GRO to age occupation & father’s  name.

Thank you, I think we've got more chance of seeing pigs flying over a blue moon than getting their marriage certificate, my grandmother won't respond to me, neither will my paternal uncles or auntie.

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Re: Do any of these surnames belong to the GRT community?
« Reply #11 on: Sunday 02 February 25 19:35 GMT (UK) »
You don’t need them to get it.
You should be able to work it out for yourself and then buy it as outlined.

I wonder if the 1934 one  went by Brian rather than David.
Possible death in 1992 name not matching up with name on the 1939 register, hence still redacted

Is your father still alive? If not you could give us his name. If you don’t want to put it up here, send a pm. (The little green paper icon under the names on the left)

Ie. if he is still alive, don’t publish his name

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Re: Do any of these surnames belong to the GRT community?
« Reply #12 on: Sunday 02 February 25 23:36 GMT (UK) »
I don't know anything about my paternal grandfather other than his name David Bryan Senior.

Is 'Senior' his actual surname or do you mean he was the older one of two and the surname is BRYAN?

Debra  :)


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Re: Do any of these surnames belong to the GRT community?
« Reply #13 on: Monday 03 February 25 00:15 GMT (UK) »
On my mother's side, I've managed to trace back my great-great grandmother's grandparents who were -
Catherine Sherpin - born 1814 in Westminster, London; died 1875 in Kensington, London
John James Jackson - born 1819/20 in - St Mary's Church, Strand, London; died 1865 in Kensington London

Looking at the surnames you have posted I think you are a bit confused on the JACKSON side of your family.

Ada KIDD married Robert PAMMENT in 1894.

Ada was born in 1878, the daughter of George KIDD and Frances Caroline JACKSON who were married in 1864.

Frances Caroline was born in 1843 (registered as Caroline Frances), the daughter of John James JACKSON and Ann Harris HOLMES who were married in 1838. John is widowed by 1851, it looks like Ann most likely died in 1846 and was buried at St Giles.  John remarried in 1860 to a 45 year old widow named Catherine LARNDER (maiden surname CRUSE, previously married to Robert LARDNER in 1829).

Who is 'Catherine Sherpin'?

Debra  :)

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Re: Do any of these surnames belong to the GRT community?
« Reply #14 on: Monday 03 February 25 00:26 GMT (UK) »
I don't know anything about my paternal grandfather other than his name David Bryan Senior.

Is 'Senior' his actual surname or do you mean he was the older one of two and the surname is BRYAN?

Debra  :)

I meant senior as he was the father of my dad and my dad was also called David Bryan. I believe his dad (my granddad) was called David Bryan - no idea of any middle names for my paternal grandfather.

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« Reply #15 on: Monday 03 February 25 00:34 GMT (UK) »
On my mother's side, I've managed to trace back my great-great grandmother's grandparents who were -
Catherine Sherpin - born 1814 in Westminster, London; died 1875 in Kensington, London
John James Jackson - born 1819/20 in - St Mary's Church, Strand, London; died 1865 in Kensington London

Looking at the surnames you have posted I think you are a bit confused on the JACKSON side of your family.

Ada KIDD married Robert PAMMENT in 1894.

Ada was born in 1878, the daughter of George KIDD and Frances Caroline JACKSON who were married in 1864.

Frances Caroline was born in 1843 (registered as Caroline Frances), the daughter of John James JACKSON and Ann Harris HOLMES who were married in 1838. John is widowed by 1851, it looks like Ann most likely died in 1846 and was buried at St Giles.  John remarried in 1860 to a 45 year old widow named Catherine LARNDER (maiden surname CRUSE, previously married to Robert LARDNER in 1829).

Who is 'Catherine Sherpin'?

Debra  :)

Aw right, I found a Catherine Sherpin - born 1814 in Westminster, London; died 1875 in Kensington, London who was married to John Jackson.

I also found Frances Caroline Jackson - born 1847 in Strand, London; died 1884 in St. Pancras, London. I must've got muddled up at that stage of the tree  ???

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Re: Do any of these surnames belong to the GRT community?
« Reply #16 on: Monday 03 February 25 00:59 GMT (UK) »
There is a London census St Giles in the Fields, Middlesex with a David Bryan Snr and Jnr. 1901 . Schedule 431 . Piece/Folio 149 . Page 69. The children are registered as Bryan and Brien with mmn Chapman. Mother Rose C Chapman.

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Re: Do any of these surnames belong to the GRT community?
« Reply #17 on: Monday 03 February 25 01:10 GMT (UK) »
There is a London census St Giles in the Fields, Middlesex with a David Bryan Snr and Jnr. 1901 . Schedule 431 . Piece/Folio 149 . Page 69. The children are registered as Bryan and Brien with mmn Chapman. Mother Rose C Chapman.

Thank you, I shall have a look.