Do any of these surnames belong to the GRT community?

[ry2an5]

Hi all, I was just wondering if any of these surnames belong to the Gypsy, Romani(y), Traveller community.

Kidd
Pamment
Acland
Sherpin
Jackson
Cottage
Stock
Morley
Keane
Jenkins
Farmer
Bryan

[Darnity]

What context do you have them in that makes you think they do?

[ry2an5]

Surnames of my extended relatives/ancestors. Trying to find out if any of my ancestors were Gypsies, Romanies or Travellers. We have been told conflicting information with some of our relatives saying we do have Gypsy blood and others saying no we don't.

None of my immediate family have been raised as Gypsies, but obviously I don't know about my ancestors.

Also, I have very little information about my father's side of the family who no longer speak to me. I don't know anything about my paternal grandfather other than his name David Bryan Senior. I would like to find out about his parents, but my paternal grandmother (married my dad's father) isn't helpful.

[Darnity]

The connection may be many generations ago.

You need to work backwards doing your tree (include the siblings of your direct ancestors as they can sometimes provide useful clues) and if you find any of your wider family say for example in tents or caravans or with typical occupations such as hawker or travelling knife grinder on the Census then you can start looking at that wider family.

You might find it useful to read "My Ancestors were Gypsies" by Sharon Sillers Floate - a library may have a copy or be able to get one for you to borrow.

[ry2an5]

Thank you

On my mother's side, I've managed to trace back my great-great grandmother's grandparents who were -
Catherine Sherpin - born 1814 in Westminster, London; died 1875 in Kensington, London
John James Jackson - born 1819/20 in - St Mary's Church, Strand, London; died 1865 in Kensington London

Unfortunately, my father's side of the family only goes as far back as my grandfather who I don't even where he was born or his parent's names.

[Darnity]

my father's side of the family only goes as far back as my grandfather who I don't even where he was born or his parent's names.

I'm not clear from what you've said, whether paternal grandfather is dead or alive.

If he's dead you can find out his age from his death registration. Then you can look for his birth on the BMDs - either on the GRO website or on FreeBMD.

You can also find the marriage of him and your paternal grandmother, the marriage cert should tell you the name and occupation of his father.

If he's dead and was alive in 1939 you should be able to find him on the 1939 Register.

[mckha489]

There is a DBS born in Yorkshire, England, in 1936, who died in North Carolina in 2004
Is this your grandfather?

There is an obit in the Island Packet of 10 November 2004. I don’t have the necessary subscription to view that.

Some records on FamilySearch (free). https://www.familysearch.org/en/home/portal/

Need confirmation this is the right man before proceeding.

[ry2an5]

my father's side of the family only goes as far back as my grandfather who I don't even where he was born or his parent's names.

I'm not clear from what you've said, whether paternal grandfather is dead or alive.

If he's dead you can find out his age from his death registration. Then you can look for his birth on the BMDs - either on the GRO website or on FreeBMD.

You can also find the marriage of him and your paternal grandmother, the marriage cert should tell you the name and occupation of his father.

If he's dead and was alive in 1939 you should be able to find him on the 1939 Register.

I don't know whether he is dead or alive either, I have no contact with my dad's family anymore, not my choice, I have tried to reach to them.

[ry2an5]

There is a DBS born in Yorkshire, England, in 1936, who died in North Carolina in 2004
Is this your grandfather?

There is an obit in the Island a packet of 10 November 2004. I don’t have the necessary subscription to view that.

Some records on FamilySearch (free). https://www.familysearch.org/en/home/portal/

Need confirmation this is the right man before proceeding.

Hi, highly unlikely to be my grandfather. I don't think he would've died in North Carolina, America.