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Re: The mystery of Helen QUIN
« Reply #9 on: Friday 24 January 25 21:37 GMT (UK) »
Neither of the 2 Lanarkshire marriages have a son John living with them in 1901 so bang goes that theory🙄
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Re: The mystery of Helen QUIN
« Reply #10 on: Friday 24 January 25 22:20 GMT (UK) »
Have you considered this death:

QUIN
ELLEN
43
MONAGHAN
F
1909
646 / 2 / 1210
Govan

given Helen and Ellen are interchangeable in Scotland
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Re: The mystery of Helen QUIN
« Reply #11 on: Friday 24 January 25 22:32 GMT (UK) »
It's possible, Scotmum - this Ellen QUIN was single, a french polisher, and the death was reported by her sister, whose surname I can't read. On John QUINN's marriage, in 1917, his mother's occupation was paper bag maker.
Farrell  - Ayrshire
Cairns - Ayrshire
McCann - Ayrshire
Brown - Ayrshire
Petty - Yorkshire, Durham
Lucas - Staffordshire, Durham
Whitaker - Yorkshire
Thackrah - Yorkshire
Stephenson - Durham
Marshall - Yorkshire
Walker - Staffordshire, Southland New Zealand
McCullough -  Antrim, Southland New Zealand,
Cavanagh - Galway, Southland New Zealand
Anthony - Tipperary, Southland New Zealand
Bath - Cornwall, Tasmania, Southland
Brungot - Alesund, Norway; Southland
Bonthron - Fifeshire, Southland

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Re: The mystery of Helen QUIN
« Reply #12 on: Friday 24 January 25 22:32 GMT (UK) »
1911 Census
John Quin 18 Miner, Boarder Born Govan
Ellen Quin 14 , Boarder, Born Govan
Was he a miner later in life?
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Re: The mystery of Helen QUIN
« Reply #13 on: Friday 24 January 25 22:38 GMT (UK) »
Possible birth of the 1911 child, Ellen:


QUIN
ELLEN
F
1896
646 / 2 / 1036
Govan
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Re: The mystery of Helen QUIN
« Reply #14 on: Friday 24 January 25 22:40 GMT (UK) »
In 1921, John QUINN was a coal miner, living in Saltcoats, Ayrshire. On his marriage, in 1917, he was a dynamite worker.
Farrell  - Ayrshire
Cairns - Ayrshire
McCann - Ayrshire
Brown - Ayrshire
Petty - Yorkshire, Durham
Lucas - Staffordshire, Durham
Whitaker - Yorkshire
Thackrah - Yorkshire
Stephenson - Durham
Marshall - Yorkshire
Walker - Staffordshire, Southland New Zealand
McCullough -  Antrim, Southland New Zealand,
Cavanagh - Galway, Southland New Zealand
Anthony - Tipperary, Southland New Zealand
Bath - Cornwall, Tasmania, Southland
Brungot - Alesund, Norway; Southland
Bonthron - Fifeshire, Southland

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Re: The mystery of Helen QUIN
« Reply #15 on: Friday 24 January 25 22:51 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, Scotmum - that is a birth to Helen (called Ellen on this registration) at the Govan Poorhouse. She's a paper bag maker.
Farrell  - Ayrshire
Cairns - Ayrshire
McCann - Ayrshire
Brown - Ayrshire
Petty - Yorkshire, Durham
Lucas - Staffordshire, Durham
Whitaker - Yorkshire
Thackrah - Yorkshire
Stephenson - Durham
Marshall - Yorkshire
Walker - Staffordshire, Southland New Zealand
McCullough -  Antrim, Southland New Zealand,
Cavanagh - Galway, Southland New Zealand
Anthony - Tipperary, Southland New Zealand
Bath - Cornwall, Tasmania, Southland
Brungot - Alesund, Norway; Southland
Bonthron - Fifeshire, Southland

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Re: The mystery of Helen QUIN
« Reply #16 on: Friday 24 January 25 22:59 GMT (UK) »
Thank you, David - that looks like John.
Farrell  - Ayrshire
Cairns - Ayrshire
McCann - Ayrshire
Brown - Ayrshire
Petty - Yorkshire, Durham
Lucas - Staffordshire, Durham
Whitaker - Yorkshire
Thackrah - Yorkshire
Stephenson - Durham
Marshall - Yorkshire
Walker - Staffordshire, Southland New Zealand
McCullough -  Antrim, Southland New Zealand,
Cavanagh - Galway, Southland New Zealand
Anthony - Tipperary, Southland New Zealand
Bath - Cornwall, Tasmania, Southland
Brungot - Alesund, Norway; Southland
Bonthron - Fifeshire, Southland

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Re: The mystery of Helen QUIN
« Reply #17 on: Friday 24 January 25 23:40 GMT (UK) »
1891 census 55 Sandyfauld St Govan
 Ellen Quin, 24, Born Ireland, French polisher
Head of house is Ann O’Neill 45 born Ireland, mill worker
Milligan - Jardine – Glencross – Dinwoodie - Brown: (Dumfriesshire & Kirkcudbrightshire)
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Neale – Cater – Kinder - Harrison: (Warwickshire & Queensland)
Roberts - Spry: (Cornwall, Middlesex & Queensland)
Munster: (Schleswig-Holstein & Queensland) and Plate: (Braunschweig, Neubruck & Queensland & New York)