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Re: Keogh and Toomy family in Ballymore Eustace, County Wicklow
« Reply #18 on: Friday 24 January 25 08:03 GMT (UK) »
And here is baptism of Dermot Kehoe [i.e. Darby Keogh], Ballymore Eustace [Edit 21/2/1797 - date from transcript appears incorrect] ?/1/1797 - looking at the original, date is January.

Dermot, son of Dermot Kehoe and Margaret --
[Christian names are in Latin in original]
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633342#page/2/mode/1up

There appears to be an address in the original, but it is obscured by a crease.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Keogh and Toomy family in Ballymore Eustace, County Wicklow
« Reply #19 on: Friday 24 January 25 08:12 GMT (UK) »
Important note: the names of the parents I have found for Darby Keogh and Anne Toomy, fit with the names and naming order of the first four children Darby and Anne had - in accordance with Irish naming traditions. [Actually with a variant, but that is ok]. Which is significant. The names also fit with the names in the tythe valuations.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Keogh and Toomy family in Ballymore Eustace, County Wicklow
« Reply #20 on: Friday 24 January 25 08:50 GMT (UK) »
Important note: the names of the parents I have found for Darby Keogh and Anne Toomy, fit with the names and naming order of the first four children Darby and Anne had - in accordance with Irish naming traditions. [Actually with a variant, but that is ok]. Which is significant. The names also fit with the names in the tythe valuations.

Yes I noticed the Margaret and that would have made me want to  look at this.....I am getting out a set of metaphorical tweezers (while wearing the obligatory white gloves of course) and carefully moving that turned over piece of paper/crease.

It looks to start with kile g or y. if the just visble letters to the right are part of it then they look to be a   n

Kileg
Killg

Killy
Kiley

I am looking at Kilgowan in Kilcullen but it is a little way away from Ballymore Eustace.

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Re: Keogh and Toomy family in Ballymore Eustace, County Wicklow
« Reply #21 on: Friday 24 January 25 16:02 GMT (UK) »
Patrick Tumey married Catherine Burke, Ballymore Eustace, 01/4/1798
- Just before the start of the 1798 Rising.
https://registers.nli.ie/registers/vtls000633342#page/100/mode/1up

April is certain, day may be placeholder in transcription
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area


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Re: Keogh and Toomy family in Ballymore Eustace, County Wicklow
« Reply #22 on: Friday 24 January 25 16:12 GMT (UK) »

Yes I noticed the Margaret and that would have made me want to  look at this.....I am getting out a set of metaphorical tweezers (while wearing the obligatory white gloves of course) and carefully moving that turned over piece of paper/crease.

It looks to start with kile g or y. if the just visble letters to the right are part of it then they look to be a   n

Kileg
Killg

Killy
Kiley

I am looking at Kilgowan in Kilcullen but it is a little way away from Ballymore Eustace.

Just to note that wherever it is, it is probably the address of the bride.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Keogh and Toomy family in Ballymore Eustace, County Wicklow
« Reply #23 on: Friday 24 January 25 18:27 GMT (UK) »
OP - I see from previous posts by you that you know from Antipodean records that your Darby Keogh was a farmer. An important piece of information, which you neglected to mention! This means the family may be mentioned in tythe valuations (see my previous) and Griffiths Valuation.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Keogh and Toomy family in Ballymore Eustace, County Wicklow
« Reply #24 on: Friday 24 January 25 18:34 GMT (UK) »
Behold, Jeremiah and Patrick Keogh are listed in Barretstown, Co. Kildare in Griffith's Valuation of 1853. Patrick is holding from Jeremiah, but Jeremiah does not have a house. Living with Patrick, or in another townland? There are also listings for Jeremiah in Dowdenstown, where he has affluent house.


As Shanreagh pointed out earlier, Darby is also Jeremiah. Most probably an official from elsewhere in the country back-translated Darby to Jeremiah, rather than Dermot, which would be the correct name in this case.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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Re: Keogh and Toomy family in Ballymore Eustace, County Wicklow
« Reply #25 on: Saturday 25 January 25 00:46 GMT (UK) »
There are also listings for Jeremiah in Dowdenstown, where he has affluent house.

Looking back at the tythe valuation, there is also a Darby Kehoe listed in Dowdenstown in 1826. Mistranscribed as Kihoe, which is why I missed it first time. Large farm, 176 Irish acres.
http://titheapplotmentbooks.nationalarchives.ie/reels/tab//004625726/004625726_00033.pdf

I searched three civil parishes - Ballymore Eustace, Hollywood, and Tipperkevin - and this Kehoe of Dowdenstown and Barretstown is the only match in the tythe valuations.
BRENNANx2 Davidstown&Taghmon,Ballybrennan; COOPER St.Helens;CREAN Raheennaskeagh&Ballywalter;COSGRAVE Castlebridge?;CULLEN Lady's Island;CULLETON Forth Commons;CURRAN Hillbrook, Wic;DOYLE Clonee&Tombrack;FOX Knockbrandon; FURLONG Moortown;HAYESx2 Walsheslough&Wex;McGILL Litter;MORRIS Forth Commons;PIERCE Ladys Island;POTTS Bennettstown;REDMOND Gerry; ROCHEx2 Wex; ROCHFORD Ballysampson&Ballyhit;SHERIDAN Moneydurtlow; SINNOTT Wex;SMYTH Gerry&Oulart;WALSH Kilrane&Wex; WHITE Tagoat area

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