Mathew Byrne Fountain Head Bell Foundry ,James Street Dublin

[noland01]

Was sent an article tonight which is from Carlow Nationalist 27th March 1915 saying Matthew Byrne a native of Ballymurphy and now a bell maker in Dublin presented a bell to his home Parish church.It states he is elderly and was represented by his son at the ceremony.

[Sinann]

Had a look at Bella Vista on the map, it was a fairly big house.
The Matthew in Templeogue in 1901 and 1911 is living in a 1st class, 14 room house. He also owned several other properties of his neighbours. (House and Building Returns)

It doesn’t look like he filled in both forms himself, the hand writing is quite different, I think the 1911 one is the enumerators writing which may explain why he is listed as single.
Of course the ages on the census don’t come close to the age of 81on the death certificate but given the size of the house and other properties it must be the same man.
His estate was worth over £5000.
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014919/005014919_00688.pdf

Matthew W is his son, who must have gone into the family business at some point and there is a sister Mary going by the letter in the newspaper.
Which leaves Frank F, where did he go?

Does that sound correct?

The property in Templeogue would be worth looking at. See next reply.

[Sinann]

Number 78 O’Byrne to Murphy
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-CSK3-S3JY-2?cat=185720&i=209

[noland01]

Had a look at Bella Vista on the map, it was a fairly big house.
The Matthew in Templeogue in 1901 and 1911 is living in a 1st class, 14 room house. He also owned several other properties of his neighbours. (House and Building Returns)

It doesn’t look like he filled in both forms himself, the hand writing is quite different, I think the 1911 one is the enumerators writing which may explain why he is listed as single.
Of course the ages on the census don’t come close to the age of 81on the death certificate but given the size of the house and other properties it must be the same man.
His estate was worth over £5000.
http://www.willcalendars.nationalarchives.ie/reels/cwa/005014919/005014919_00688.pdf

Matthew W is his son, who must have gone into the family business at some point and there is a sister Mary going by the letter in the newspaper.
Which leaves Frank F, where did he go?

Does that sound correct?

The property in Templeogue would be worth looking at. See next reply.

Francis Byrne dies 27th February 1919 Malahide Road ,Clontarf, aged 57 and unmarried as reported by his brother Matthew Byrne of 42 James Street, Dublin.

https://civilrecords.irishgenealogy.ie/churchrecords/images/deaths_returns/deaths_1919/05162/4423541.pdf

[noland01]

Did you have a Matthew married to an Emily
Irish Independent
Death notice for Emily O’Byrne died Jan 26 1952 widow of Matthew O’Byrne late of Bell Foundry, James St.
Her address 54 Northumberland Road.
Buried Glasnevin.

Don't seem to see that death on civil records site.

[Sinann]

Neither could I, couldn’t find her in Glasnevin either but the death appears in the Sunday Independent and Irish Press on the 27th and the Irish Independent on the 28th.

[noland01]

Found a Thomas Byrne an annuiant dying in Dublin 1915 as reported by his widow Elizabeth. Correct age for Thomas byrne  born 1864 in Wexford.
Its a long shot  and will post link later but i think he is a possible son of Mathew Byrne.

Looking at what is found so far it looks likely that there is only a small possibility of any descendants as most of Mathew's children died unmarried or in infancy.

Have found a few possible baptisms in the Borris Parish register for Mathew Byrne born c.1835 but the two best ones have no address which would be a major help.

He supposedly came from a family of blacksmiths,went to Wexford to serve his time in Pierces and ended up in Dublin.

The lack of descendants would make a DNA connection harder whilst i cannot for definite connect this Mathew Byrne with the earliest known ancestor of the person searching for the link so kinda snookered so far on both ends.