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Re: Marriage of James Robson and Jane Campbell, around Sunderland 1800.
« Reply #27 on: Wednesday 22 January 25 19:55 GMT (UK) »
Got the answer!
There were two James and Jane Robsons of similar age in Cornhill in 1841!
The other couple have the son John
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQB4-TGD

Does that mean the July 1846 burial in Cornhill isn't the right James?
Time to butt out, I think.

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Re: Marriage of James Robson and Jane Campbell, around Sunderland 1800.
« Reply #28 on: Wednesday 22 January 25 20:01 GMT (UK) »

Time to butt out, I think.


Don’t do that !

Looks like the burial I found was the other James  :-\
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Re: Marriage of James Robson and Jane Campbell, around Sunderland 1800.
« Reply #29 on: Wednesday 22 January 25 20:54 GMT (UK) »
 Martin could be the marriage I found in 1789 in Oxnam to this second James. I said Hurden, but looking at it again it could be Martin. Another small mystery solved??
Thanks jon for coming to the rescue!

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Re: Marriage of James Robson and Jane Campbell, around Sunderland 1800.
« Reply #30 on: Wednesday 22 January 25 21:12 GMT (UK) »
Where do you find the surname Martin? The index on Scotland’s people for that marriage says spouses name ‘not given’.
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Re: Marriage of James Robson and Jane Campbell, around Sunderland 1800.
« Reply #31 on: Wednesday 22 January 25 21:19 GMT (UK) »
That's a good thought. It still leaves you without your marriage though.
Now if the "other" James and Jane Robson died in 1846 and 1849 as per the Coldstream inscription, it could leave these two deaths

ROBSON, JAMES       
Age at Death (in years): 83 
GRO Reference: 1848  M Quarter in BERWICK UPON TWEED UNION  Volume 25  Page 23

and
ROBSON, JANE       
Age at Death (in years): 87 
GRO Reference: 1852  S Quarter in BERWICK UPON TWEED UNION  Volume 10B  Page 196

With your Jane still alive in Cornhill in the 1851 census.
She has a 10 year old James Robson with her.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:SG63-22Y

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Re: Marriage of James Robson and Jane Campbell, around Sunderland 1800.
« Reply #32 on: Wednesday 22 January 25 21:37 GMT (UK) »
Here’s the 1848 James Robson, buried at Cornhill
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-63BW-CQL?cat=1820930&i=190
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Re: Marriage of James Robson and Jane Campbell, around Sunderland 1800.
« Reply #33 on: Wednesday 22 January 25 22:20 GMT (UK) »
That's great Jen.
As is that Cornhill website link you posted!
There are a few Campbell burials (but not many in our required time frame)
19 September 1818, Jane Campbell, age 79. Doesn't say who she was (like wife/widow of)
2 September 1824, Robert Campbell, age 84
Both good ages, but maybe that's not so unusual there!

Going back further, only one
7 March 1779, Mary, daughter of Robert Campbell

Total speculation of course, but was Robert married to Jane? Are they potential parents of Jane born circa 1765? :-\

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Re: Marriage of James Robson and Jane Campbell, around Sunderland 1800.
« Reply #34 on: Thursday 23 January 25 10:41 GMT (UK) »
It's confusing about the registration as 'Cornhill' on that record for Alexander's birth. I assumed it was Cornhill in the Newcastle district, but if father James is from Scotland, it could be Cornhill-on-Tweed which, as I understand it, was in the County of Durham untill 1844, as a chapelry of Norham.

Going back to clarify Alexander’s birthplace.

In the 1851 census this is given as North Durham, Cornhill.

The major clue here is the use of the term North Durham. This was used to denote the three ‘outliers’ of County Durham which lay within Northumberland. They were known as Bedlingtonshire, Islandshire and Norhamshire. Cornhill fell within Norhamshire.

These three areas became part of Northumberland under the ‘Counties (Detached Parts) Bill’ of 1844.

The 1841 census correctly shows Alexander as having been born in County Durham, because at the time he was born Cornhill was in that county.

I hope this makes sense  :-\

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Re: Marriage of James Robson and Jane Campbell, around Sunderland 1800.
« Reply #35 on: Thursday 23 January 25 15:01 GMT (UK) »
jonwarrn and JenB - you have both been busy! Thanking you  again for all this.
I have looked again at the 1789 marriage in Oxnam (image attached) and in the light of day I can see it isn't Martin. Definitely looks like it begins with an H.

Those Robson burials in Berwick upon Tweed look distinctly possible. Interesting point from jon, if the marriage was 'irregular' ie over the border, did the spouse necessarily take the groom's name? So was Jane still a Campbell? I am presuming that was the whole point of the marriage, to take the name and gain legitimacy, but who knows with individuals.

The Campbell burials mentioned I will look into. Could well be connections to Jane. And thanks JenB for clarifying the North Durham listing. This whole story is just so interesting and fascinating!
Many thanks again.